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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Research Services
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:56:00 - [ 1]
<nerd-rage>
As an ex-GAP-year Latin Teacher....
Carpe Universitas is presumably supposed to mean "Seize the Universe", "Seize Everything" or possibly even "Seize the University", all of which are acceptable translations of Universitas.
But...
Universitas is 3rd Declension, Nominative Singular (Feminine incidentally, declines like Libertas).
In the film "Dead Poets Society", Robin Williams' character whispered Carpe Diem to his class. Not Carpe Dies. And do you know why?
No you don't. But I'll tell you.
Dies (like Universitas) is Nominative Singular, whereas Diem (like Universitatem) is Accusative Singular.
Carpe (Imperative) requires Universitatem (Object, Accusative). This should be your alliance name.
Your current name is meaningless and ungrammatic - just random words thrown together. You may as well have named it "Flow Trumpet" or "Kill Waterfall" for all the sense it makes. It's very much like saying "I is great" instead of "I am great". The most charitable translation of your current alliance name is "Seize it! The University."
Surely the thing about using Latin to make yourself look clever is that you should actually be clever as well?
Queue posts from [SEIZE] about how this is actually post-modern, ironic Latin.
</nerd-rage>
And no, I'm not an alt. This char (and jnb) are my mains. I'm a highsec carebear, and you can therefore safely dismiss everything in this poast. |
Dr Totenkopf
Caldari
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:57:00 - [ 2]
pwnd |
Prez21
coracao ardente
Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:59:00 - [ 3]
Edited by: Prez21 on 16/04/2008 11:59:44 Originally by: jna
<nerd-rage>
As an ex-GAP-year Latin Teacher....
Carpe Universitas is presumably supposed to mean "Seize the Universe", "Seize Everything" or possibly even "Seize the University", all of which are acceptable translations of Universitas.
But...
Universitas is 3rd Declension, Nominative Singular (Feminine incidentally, declines like Libertas).
In the film "Dead Poets Society", Robin Williams' character whispered Carpe Diem to his class. Not Carpe Dies. And do you know why?
No you don't. But I'll tell you.
Dies (like Universitas) is Nominative Singular, whereas Diem (like Universitatem) is Accusative Singular.
Carpe (Imperative) requires Universitatem (Object, Accusative). This should be your alliance name.
Your current name is meaningless and ungrammatic - just random words thrown together. You may as well have named it "Flow Trumpet" or "Kill Waterfall" for all the sense it makes. It's very much like saying "I is great" instead of "I am great". The most charitable translation of your current alliance name is "Seize it! The University."
Surely the thing about using Latin to make yourself look clever is that you should actually be clever as well?
Queue posts from [SEIZE] about how this is actually post-modern, ironic Latin.
</nerd-rage>
And no, I'm not an alt. This char (and jnb) are my mains. I'm a highsec carebear, and you can therefore safely dismiss everything in this poast.
When you was typing this, did you actualy think people would care? I dont see what this post has to do with anyhing, so what there name doesnt mean anything cool, im pretty sure no one cares and your just trying to show off the fact that you understand latin better than everyone else and instead you just end up looking quite sad and pathetic |
Reacz
Caldari
Havoc Violence and Chaos
The Church. |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:01:00 - [ 4]
You should of added at the end of your post: Veni, vidi, vici.  |
jna
Caldari
Black Ash Research Services
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:03:00 - [ 5]
Originally by: Reacz
You should of added at the end of your post:
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Thak Navari
Caldari
Phantasmal Collective
Sylph Alliance |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:03:00 - [ 6]
I disagree with the Tri pilot....Its informative and educational. There should be more informative and educational instead of ignorance and smack! Nothing wrong with one guy stating what he believes is right when another has the right to smack what he has to say. |
Reverand Pastor
DEATHFUNK |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:04:00 - [ 7]
FAIL |
Prez21
coracao ardente
Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:06:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Thak Navari
I disagree with the Tri pilot....Its informative and educational. There should be more informative and educational instead of ignorance and smack! Nothing wrong with one guy stating what he believes is right when another has the right to smack what he has to say.
Im not saying it isnt educational, and i wish i had such a knowledge of latin, but why does it belong in this forum? simply it doesnt, its just one guy trying to embarass and alliance name, its flamebait and not needed. |
Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:08:00 - [ 9]
You know everyone just refers to them as carpet, right? |
v3rtigo
Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:11:00 - [ 10]
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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Research Services
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:14:00 - [ 11]
Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi. |
EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:17:00 - [ 12]
I is great! Whats your point? |
Why'dyou HitMe
Minmatar
KAOS.
Imperial Republic Of the North |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:21:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: jna
Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi.
Wait no you must do Morsus Mihi |
jna
Caldari
Black Ash Research Services
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:24:00 - [ 14]
Edited by: jna on 16/04/2008 12:36:31 Originally by: Why'dyou HitMe
Originally by: jna
Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi.
Wait no you must do Morsus Mihi
lol. Well presumably it's supposed to be "Bite Me". Which would be Morde Me (or Me Morde). 16th Century church Latin, you could possibly get away with Morde Mi instead of Me. Morsus Mihi deconstructed... Morsus (Nominative Singular Noun from mordere - the infinitive verb that forms the imperative "bite", which would be morde). Mihi (Dative singular)... So Morsus Mihi sort-of means "A Bite. To me." /me stems the flow of nerd rage |
Funkcikle
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:31:00 - [ 15]
Actually It occured to me that carpe had got it wrong whilst I was taking a crap yesterday morning. |
Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:33:00 - [ 16]
Hey, at least it's an actual alliance, not an allaince  But yeah, if you do something it's probably best to try and do it right wouldn't you say ? |
CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:33:00 - [ 17]
Moved from CAOD to General Discussion.
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Pajama Jack
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.17 08:46:00 - [ 18]
Hahaha simple web translation tool. Heh the way you get worked up over this, my corps name should have you foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog. |
Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:04:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: jna
And do you know why?
No you don't.
I resent that assumption. "People called Romanes they go the house"? |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Ministers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:14:00 - [ 20]
Excelent post,
This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.
One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.
I fear applications may be some what lacking though. |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings |
Posted - 2008.04.17 09:28:00 - [ 21]
Some would say in the distant future people will have l33t names, I think not. I think however languages will have evolved and people doing honest mistakes already now with their dead languages you can easily see how the correct form will have mutated into what it is in a galaxy far far away and much later.
Whatever someone says it means it means, I'm pretty sure they used all their latin scholars as firewood during that first winter after the EVE gate collapsed anyways. |
Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:33:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
"People called Romanes they go the house"?
"Perhaps you find it wisible when I mention the name of my fwiend Bigus?" |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:34:00 - [ 23]
Edited by: Erotic Irony on 17/04/2008 10:35:01 Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Excelent post,
This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.
One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.
I fear applications may be some what lacking though.
I'm game for this. Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher? |
Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:45:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 17/04/2008 10:50:25 Originally by: Erotic Irony
Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher?
In the UK, some people take a year out between A-levels and university. The idea of this " Gap year" is to do something useful, or gain useful experience. Some people travel the world. Others do volunteering activities in the third world. Some work to gain experience. Others teach (usually in independent or prep schools, which are less constrained about the qualifications of those they employ). Edit: More pointless info, and some ranting. This is becoming increasingly popular, to the extent that there are now companies that will organise your gap year for you. The girls that died in the recent crash in Ecuador were on a volunteering trip run by such a company. As an old fart, this depresses me. Part of the point of gap years was that you had to get off your fat arse and organise it yourself. If you wanted to volunteer in Equatorial Guinea, you had to find an aid organisation that worked there and convince them that you would be useful. Now you just get mummy and daddy to send ten grand to a holiday company that will make your trip just ethical enough not to seem like the adventure holiday it really is. Once you're back you toddle of to university to do yet another pointless course in sleepware retail management. |
Maglorre |
Posted - 2008.04.17 10:46:00 - [ 25]
Ooooh oooh!! Do this one NOS |
Admiral Pwnflakes
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.17 11:00:00 - [ 26]
Edited by: Admiral Pwnflakes on 17/04/2008 11:10:54 Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 17/04/2008 10:50:25
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher?
In the UK, some people take a year out between A-levels and university. The idea of this "Gap year" is to do something useful, or gain useful experience. Some people travel the world. Others do volunteering activities in the third world. Some work to gain experience. Others teach (usually in independent or prep schools, which are less constrained about the qualifications of those they employ).
Edit: More pointless info, and some ranting.
This is becoming increasingly popular, to the extent that there are now companies that will organise your gap year for you. The girls that died in the recent crash in Ecuador were on a volunteering trip run by such a company.
As an old fart, this depresses me. Part of the point of gap years was that you had to get off your fat arse and organise it yourself. If you wanted to volunteer in Equatorial Guinea, you had to find an aid organisation that worked there and convince them that you would be useful. Now you just get mummy and daddy to send ten grand to a holiday company that will make your trip just ethical enough not to seem like the adventure holiday it really is. Once you're back you toddle of to university to do yet another pointless course in sleepware retail management.
A good 60% of gap years are now taken by mummy and daddies boys/girls whose parents cater to the beg and whim of their spoilt and immature children. IF these people had any balls or savy they'd go straight to University anyway, then do the GAP year afterwards if they so chose to do so. But I digress, 9/10 these people goto Uni and study some inane an totally pointless subject (like Reading) and come out and end up getting a job paying 40k a year + bens and not doing alot. And yeah, I'm a bitter person with a 1st class honors degree in Computer Science who is woefully underpaid and under appreciated. NEVERMIND, EVE lets me vent my anger. :P (But I do plan to do my GAP year at the end of this year!) :P Great now I'm tired and angry to boot, damn you sir, damn you! |
CCP Atropos
C C P |
Posted - 2008.04.17 11:21:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Excelent post,
This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.
One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.
I fear applications may be some what lacking though.
What an awesome idea! I'm in! |
CCP Hammer
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Posted - 2008.04.17 11:34:00 - [ 28]
Now I really want to create the Flow Trumpet Alliance. |
CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.17 11:36:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Now I really want to create the Flow Trumpet Alliance.
Just to make sweet, sweet music, right? |
Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2008.04.17 11:45:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Reacz
You should of added at the end of your post:
Veni, vidi, vici.
Weni widi wici, as Caesar purportedly had such a speech impediment :D |
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