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Topic |
Dotard
Minmatar
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:08:00 - [ 1]
Sucks monkeyballs. Whoever came up with this idea needs to be shot, quartered, deficated upon and shot again.
(ingame)
That is all.
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Nadezhda Andropov |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:10:00 - [ 2]
 Originally by: Dotard
Sucks monkeyballs. Whoever came up with this idea needs to be shot, quartered, deficated upon and shot again.
(ingame)
That is all.
whaa-whaaa "I can't steal other people's wrecks as easily as before" :D |
Mr. Orange
Gallente
Band of Freelancers
Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:11:00 - [ 3]
Oh no!! It actually takes some skill AGAIN to use probes! /emoragequit If you think this is hard, ask me how we used to do it back in 2003!  |
Dotard
Minmatar
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:13:00 - [ 4]
Originally by: Nadezhda Andropov
whaa-whaaa "I can't steal other people's wrecks as easily as before"
:D
Nothing to do with scanning other ships atm. It's a stupid system, not intuitive at all. |
Nadezhda Andropov |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:19:00 - [ 5]
Originally by: Dotard
Originally by: Nadezhda Andropov
whaa-whaaa "I can't steal other people's wrecks as easily as before"
:D
Nothing to do with scanning other ships atm. It's a stupid system, not intuitive at all.
The concept is solid and rather more enjoyable than the old one. It just needs a few more graphical tweaks to make it perfect :) |
spud maur
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:19:00 - [ 6]
i find it easier to scan than before so i say it rocks. ;D |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Reckoning. |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:25:00 - [ 7]
On one hand, he's a corpmate.
ON the other hand...
Cry some moar. Wait a week and give it time before complaining. |
Apoctasy
Lethal Injection.
Hedonistic Imperative |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:25:00 - [ 8]
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Mawusi |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:25:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Mawusi on 11/03/2009 01:25:40
Ten times better than before. No more warping all round the system dropping probes and no more having to create bookmarks for those hard to scan spots.
Once you get the hang of it, its sooo easy and my scan time is now about 6 secs compared to 140 secs. Much better CCP, nice one !!
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Ruze
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:28:00 - [ 10]
At what point was the other system 'intuitive'?
Hahahah ...
New system rocks. Makes sense, easy to pick up, solid and understandable. Much worse, the skills actually make sense.
I'd rather go back to before probes worked, than to the second generation system. |
yunafan2004 |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:41:00 - [ 11]
anyone else feeling let down by the wasted training time... I lost my signal aqu lvl4 and it was replaced by a lvl1...and now all the other wasted time on astrometrics lvl4 wehn i dont see my self using 4 probes out again |
Cailais
Amarr
THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2009.03.11 01:45:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Dotard
Originally by: Nadezhda Andropov
whaa-whaaa "I can't steal other people's wrecks as easily as before"
:D
Nothing to do with scanning other ships atm. It's a stupid system, not intuitive at all.
I logged in, loaded probes, and scanned a site in under 5 minutes. Guess its just you. C. |
Misanth
Reaper Industries
Asset Liberation Front. |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:49:00 - [ 13]
Edited by: Misanth on 11/03/2009 01:49:59
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No more warping around, mass props for this.
Scooping probes. Win.
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Slower to do the quick scan for logoffskis.
? better/worse ?
Faster, much much faster site probing.
Faster, much much faster ship probing (if they are very close, or very far, from your probes, and don't log off)
I havn't decided yet, I love it and hate it same time. |
Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
Minmatar
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.03.11 01:53:00 - [ 14]
Agree, it needs a ton of work, I feel like im beta testing a bad game now. |
Amir Baki
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.11 01:53:00 - [ 15]
actually i find it much easier than the old system, just take some time and get used to it and i think you will too |
Mawusi |
Posted - 2009.03.11 01:59:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: yunafan2004
anyone else feeling let down by the wasted training time... I lost my signal aqu lvl4 and it was replaced by a lvl1...and now all the other wasted time on astrometrics lvl4 wehn i dont see my self using 4 probes out again
Signal aquisition changed to Astrometric triangulation. I presume the lvl would stay the same... |
yunafan2004 |
Posted - 2009.03.11 02:10:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Mawusi
Originally by: yunafan2004
anyone else feeling let down by the wasted training time... I lost my signal aqu lvl4 and it was replaced by a lvl1...and now all the other wasted time on astrometrics lvl4 wehn i dont see my self using 4 probes out again
Signal aquisition changed to Astrometric triangulation. I presume the lvl would stay the same...
AHHH I breezed right over that skill some how I stand corrected. It's nott hat i don't like the new system its just it seemes to friendly to people with litle time invested into skills to use it. Unlike the last system If you didnt have astro 4 you where gona have a hell of a time finding a site. or the other skills and a sisters to cut down that awsome 10 minute fun!...I'll give it a chance in the up comming days...but i still feel like now any old joe blow can pick it up and take what the veterans worked hard for in the past. |
Thernys
Caldari
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance |
Posted - 2009.03.11 02:39:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: Thernys on 11/03/2009 02:41:26
As I understand it - from a completely unverified forum soucre ;) - if you don't have the skills (high enough scan strength) you simply will not be able to pinpoint the harder sites. |
AmeNoNuhoko |
Posted - 2009.03.11 09:41:00 - [ 19]
That was my experience too. Probed about 30 different high-sec sites today testing out the system and one of them just wouldn't go above 98.7% regardless of how carefully I positioned the probes. There's definitely still varying degrees of difficulty on sites.
Finding the most difficult sites is even more skill-dependent than before -- in the old system, you had at least some nonzero chance to hit the site regardless of how bad your skills were, so if you had superhuman patience, you could get it. New system, you're just SOL if you lack sufficient strength to probe the site to 100%. |
Mish'Kala
Minmatar
Between the lines
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Posted - 2009.03.11 10:37:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Thernys
Edited by: Thernys on 11/03/2009 02:41:26
As I understand it - from a completely unverified forum soucre ;) - if you don't have the skills (high enough scan strength) you simply will not be able to pinpoint the harder sites.
This is True, it was discussed in the testing weeks in Game Design. The most difficult sites require high skills, good equipment and ship bonuses to lock down. Which is how it should be. You dont expect to do a level 4 mission in a T1 frigate with 1M SP. Probing just became a mini profession |
Gunnanmon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.11 10:55:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
Agree, it needs a ton of work, I feel like im beta testing a bad game now.
Having been here for 5 years, I get that feeling all the time. Maybe they should make a new server if/when Eve gets out of beta. And give people 5 years free playtime for the beta-testing we've been doing that long. |
Gunnanmon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.11 10:56:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: yunafan2004
anyone else feeling let down by the wasted training time... I lost my signal aqu lvl4 and it was replaced by a lvl1...and now all the other wasted time on astrometrics lvl4 wehn i dont see my self using 4 probes out again
If this is true (havent noticed it yet) I'm going to be truly ****ed off, having trained that on several alts to 5. |
Apul MadeekAoud
Black Opz
Socius Inter Nos |
Posted - 2009.03.11 11:04:00 - [ 23]
Things change, for better or for worse, but they still change. We get these whine posts every time things change. I like the new system.
ADAPT OR QUIT!!!! |
AC Resonance
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.11 11:15:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
On one hand, he's a corpmate.
ON the other hand...
Cry some moar. Wait a week and give it time before complaining.
Suddenly Ninjas are so hardcore we even smack our own members on publicly viewable forums its part of the trainin). rawr, PS: Kahega, you suck   |
Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards |
Posted - 2009.03.11 11:17:00 - [ 25]
the new probing system rewards actual player knowledge over the skill to the point a smarter player can outscanned even if out skilled mechanics wise. |
Myxx Deux
M. Corp Academy
Daisho Syndicate |
Posted - 2009.03.11 11:21:00 - [ 26]
Sorry boys, I agree a bit with Dotard here. The interface is clunky, its hardly THAT intuitive, and the toss in of 'deviation' is just one last nut cruncher. When they fix the interface maybe it will be better. How long did it take for them to get around to fixing the rest of the interface again? |
CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance |
Posted - 2009.03.11 11:23:00 - [ 27]
No discussion worthy content in OP.
Locked. |
KiIIBiII |
Posted - 2009.03.11 11:24:00 - [ 28]
Probes are messed atm, and don't say that I need skill or knowledge becouse they simply don't work as should to. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.11 11:36:00 - [ 29]
The interface is fine. When I loaded up the expansion, I didn't even know we were getting a new probing system (having been out of the loop for a while). Figured it out no problem (though having done POS deployments helped).
Moving probes around can be a little tricky when there are a lot on screen near each other, so there is room for improvement, but going from the pathetically basic interface we had before to this is very impressive. And the mechanics underlying it are fantastic too, true quadrilateration. And again, going from ******ed chance based to such a realistic system in one big step is impressive. |
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