Originally by: they mad?

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Can someone explain what the rationale was behind offlining the cynojammer in Z-M on, what was it, Friday? If we wanted to bring caps in to rep, couldn't we have used the jump bridges, or were they down? I just don't understand that, that seemed to really break the back of the defense.

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I think that decision, in itself, seriously expedited the loss of our const. Molle had put the order to offline the jammer in order to refuel caps in z-m before we were able to rep up all the pos and re-stront them. Our fleet was split between 3 systems, mvo, z-m and gq and with 10 minutes left until the jammer went back online coalition jumped in a **** ton of ships and caps, 250-300? Not the best decision this weekend, but such is EVE and the coalition capitalized on it. I think that summarizes things in short.

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Don't see any spin in my statement. We were just getting steamrolled. Defense implies efford. While being there during the weekend i didn't see any real defense efford (gangs < 200 peeps, less than 30 exe, tower repping and placing replacement towers that we had spare in the hangars).

Over 80 in alliance and less than 30 in fleet. A bit frustrating for the tired euros and the US guys that actually showed up to do stuff, same trouble on the Bob side too.

Edit: removed an dirty insult Razz

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Guys in all honesty, this should have no real impact on the real EXE member base because we already went through it once with QS- in Esoteria and big deal, it’s happening again. For those of us who have stuck around since then or who have had the same fate befall them with other alliances they too understand this. If anything it will make that EXE bond even stronger because it will rid us of all the carebear members who join a 0.0 alliance only to fatten their wallets. Our numbers on paper will drop but those in fleets will represent the true EXE vets and diehards sharing one common trait, hating goons, and those individuals will continue to x up for ops just to attack goons. Nothing more nothing less. The true EXE pilots will show their colours and continue to fight even though we have no “home”.

So drop the issue that this is BS and we are weak etc, etc, and move on. EXE will continue to fight and show up on KM’s and supporting BOB in this war.

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I've been away, and so have others in the US tz.. with a lot of help I managed to score some kills, I even hit a new record, same amount of kills in 3 months of being in VURT that I got in 3 years of being in CAD.

Lady Scarlet did an awesome job doing FC'ing, and everyone who was there was great, but if we'd had just 60 more guys in bs/hac's the other night we'd have nailed a POS and held the field but they just raked us over the coals, fortunately with few losses on our side and more for theirs.

We simply didn't have the numbers and like everyone has been saying, we've got to get a more US Tz centric corp into the alliance, sad to say but if FOFFswarm had been around we'd have held the constelation a few more days at least, not to mention there was a definite lack of bubbling on the ONLY in gate into the Constelation for the Red... 20 large bubbles and a gang permacamped at range, they'd have never gotten through.

In any case, I think we owe a lot to the EU tz's for the help but if we're going to live up to the name we've ALL earned as one of the Hard Core pvp Alliances out there, we can't keep relying on them the way we have, we need more people on IRC (500+ real active players in Alliance, and only 40 or so in IRC at a time, simply not goo enough, ditto TS), more people showing up when they can, and definitely more US Tz people. When I'm on there's maybe 30 or so people, half of them are alts (2 or 3 my own alts when I'm doing carebear crap), but that's not at all good enough.

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Originally by: derp derp derp

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It always comes down to numbers. People get discouraged and stop logging in and the cycle repeats itself. I know there were several times I would log in, nothing would be happening or no one would response seeing how like 40 carebears were on late night that don't do anything so I'd log out. That hasn't happened recently but in the beginning it did.

It gets frustrating to log in, not hear peep one from alliance and only see 25-50ppl online.

Thankfully QD and Nomad have been running ustz roaming ops so the biggest thing for us is to not get caught out of 49u in a bs.

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It's a marathon and not a sprint. We have had plenty of time to plan for this shift and will be fighting for many more months to re-shape the South.

For anyone who thought it was going to get easier, once June comes around and US schools let out for the summer, Goons will be sitting at their computers 23/7. One hand on their junk and the other pounding their keyboard throwing Rifter after Rifter at us every day.

As for second guessing the decisions of our FC's and leaders who hang our asses out on the line each day I say this, **** happens. If you thought these guys/girls log in each day to loose your hard earned space ships then you also must believe everything you read on CAOD and in local.

So we fight in the shade of 6,000 Rifters for the next 10-months.....did you have something better to do? - Wizz

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Stelios: What the hell are you laughing at?
Astinos: Well, you had to say it!
Stelios: What?
Astinos: "Fight in the shade"!

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Just my 2 cents:

As i said in a discussion with others before, PB was lost when 1-2 fell, at a point of time AFTER FoFF left us and we were making a very big stand there, considering our lowered Numbers.
At that time BoB showed no real interest in helping us there, we fought mainly alone and did a very good job, were outnumbered and lost it.

Then 49- Siege began and we were all ordered to be there, by looking at the Numbers of EXE, BoB and the rest of the GBC we always made up a large number in these Fleets, straight to the point, 49- wouldn't be BoB without us.

Going back to G-Q to defend it was more a emotional Idea for us and a "hell what happened in H74" one on BoBs side.

My View on G-Q:
Im making Isk with my Alt in Empire so that my PvP Main Char can always be at the Front, since im in OFE i think i was ratting 1 time for 4 hours when we were recalled to PB, so personally i didn't relay loose anything besides to see our Alliance name on the SoV Map.
Alliance, Corp Income and Logistics were really effected, but they knew what was going to happen.

There was a slight chance that not the entire Napland Blobb was going there, i didn't bet on it and it didn't happen, there was no way to withstand their Combined Attack, nothing to cry about.

G-Q is History most of the Grunts fighting in 1-2 knew this a month ago,
MO ordered all to evac the not important stuff from there not for the Lols.

What im Interested in is what are the New Orders?
Can we get all EXE to 49- to Increase our Bobb again?

Do we have a plan to move from "nearly" to actually kill Napland Titans?

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For anyone who thought it was going to get easier, once June comes around and US schools let out for the summer, Goons will be sitting at their computers 23/7. One hand on their junk and the other pounding their keyboard throwing Rifter after Rifter at us every day.

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For anyone who thought it was going to get easier, once June comes around and US schools let out for the summer, Goons will be sitting at their computers 23/7. One hand on their junk and the other pounding their keyboard throwing Rifter after Rifter at us every day.

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Then 49- Siege began and we were all ordered to be there, by looking at the Numbers of EXE, BoB and the rest of the GBC we always made up a large number in these Fleets, straight to the point, 49- wouldn't be BoB without us.

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Originally by: The Qat

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how do you people still think we're rifterswarm or whatever stupidity

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In any case, I think we owe a lot to the EU tz's for the help but if we're going to live up to the name we've ALL earned as one of the Hard Core pvp Alliances out there,

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 05/05/2009 17:10:46
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 05/05/2009 17:10:01
I didn't know what to post, so I'll link [THIS IMAGE] instead.

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Originally by: LTD THOR

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Edited by: LTD THOR on 05/05/2009 17:22:10

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 05/05/2009 17:10:46
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 05/05/2009 17:10:01
I didn't know what to post, so I'll link [THIS IMAGE] instead.

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whats wrong? that is the end part of my apocs turbojet engine btw.

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So drop the issue that this is BS and we are weak etc, etc, and move on. EXE will continue to fight and show up on KM’s and supporting BOB in this war.

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if we're going to live up to the name we've ALL earned as one of the Hard Core pvp Alliances out there

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...decent compared to most of Kenny's horrible lackeys...but they're still terrible in comparison to every other 0.0 powerhouse. They only exist in 0.0 because of their deal with BoB/KenZoku.

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