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Topic |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 00:01:00 - [ 571]
goons didn't even have esoteria towards the end, and even when they did they were sharing the highends with TCF and others
TCF replaced any losses with Deklein (HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
maybe RA lost out, but they were already dead a week or two into MAX so not as if it made any difference to coalition
ATLAS/Goons/TCF/-A-/ROL/sys-k/SE/c0ven all came out ahead so stop going on about this subject butter, just accept that you're wrong and move on, feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\ |
Serj Darek
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 00:25:00 - [ 572]
 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\
Finally a sentence I can get behind |
Mrs Trzzbk
Caldari
Top Hat Collective
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO |
Posted - 2009.06.06 00:39:00 - [ 573]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Tyrrax learn some math u noob our old space was much better, which is why we're all so angry about having to move. |
Toko Baru
Minmatar
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 00:48:00 - [ 574]
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Jack Gates
Gallente
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO |
Posted - 2009.06.06 00:52:00 - [ 575]
Originally by: Mrs Trzzbk
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Tyrrax learn some math u noob our old space was much better, which is why we're all so angry about having to move.
What would tyrrax know about anything, right guys? I mean, anyone who consistently steals supercapitals wouldn't know anything about alliance politics and economics, whereas an eloquent member of one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, like Butterdog, would obviously have a better understanding of what's going on around him. |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2009.06.06 01:03:00 - [ 576]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 06/06/2009 01:13:57 Originally by: Butter Dog
I also know that the combined high-ends of all lost regions is somewhere around the 450bn mark. Significantly more than you gained.
Wow. Then how come our alliance income right now for 1 and 3/4 regions is over 500 bill a month???? I want to go back and have 450 bill for 5 regions and spend a ton more on tower fuel *cries* |
Yonker
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2009.06.06 01:20:00 - [ 577]
Edited by: Yonker on 06/06/2009 01:20:09 Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 06/06/2009 01:13:57
Originally by: Butter Dog
I also know that the combined high-ends of all lost regions is somewhere around the 450bn mark. Significantly more than you gained.
Wow. Then how come our alliance income right now for 1 and 3/4 regions is over 500 bill a month???? I want to go back and have 450 bill for 5 regions and spend a ton more on tower fuel *cries*
I think all of these empire pubbies (like butterdog (zing)) are forgetting that alliance net income calculations include fuel cost. 2 regions of space < fuel cost than 5 regions of space. Especially when one of the regions will all be sov4 soon enough (not that that will save any a ton of money in the short term if we keep having Merchi-level screwups (:honk:)). |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 02:58:00 - [ 578]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 06/06/2009 03:02:00 Originally by: Zell Shadowcast
Like, completely seriously, Who are ushra'khan anyway.
I actually founded Ushra'Khan on my ARRPEE slave alt Hamish, it was part of my whole "infiltrate the minmatar RP community so i can bumfriend them with my amarr RP **** main char Tyrrax" went pretty awesome, was part of what made http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ such a big success, later I stole an imperial armageddon from a minmatar rper (made the ingame news etc) then jade constantwhine outed me after comparing forum ips and hamish had to retire from service ;[ (by founded i mean i was ceo of one of the founding corps and part of their top leadership until i got caught) PS; check out the Hamish saga, it's all about meeeeeee! |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2009.06.06 10:10:00 - [ 579]
I know everyone will be shocked to hear this, shocked I say, but Kenny and AAAs morning formup to save their towers and dignity is not going well at all... |
Ishii So
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2009.06.06 10:31:00 - [ 580]
Originally by: Himo Amasacia
I know everyone will be shocked to hear this, shocked I say, but Kenny and AAAs morning formup to save their towers and dignity is not going well at all...
Have patience! When all is prepared, we shall feel the FIST OF MOLLE! |
Jaggeh
Gallente
The Order of Odin
|
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:04:00 - [ 581]
If patience were pennies kenny wouldnt need r64's |
Oregon sinful
Gallente
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:16:00 - [ 582]
We're killing towers in H74 too fast. We actually were forced to split the dreads up to four different towers because it was taking less than a quarter of a siege cycle to kill the towers. And think of all that wasted stront! |
DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:20:00 - [ 583]
Originally by: Oregon sinful
We're killing towers in H74 too fast. We actually were forced to split the dreads up to four different towers because it was taking less than a quarter of a siege cycle to kill the towers. And think of all that wasted stront!
Look at us, wasting all that stront when Kenny is having a hard time trying to find any to put in their towers. |
Will Hunter
Gallente
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:22:00 - [ 584]
we have become what we hate  |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:27:00 - [ 585]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 06/06/2009 11:29:33Can it be that the pets are starting to slink away? T O R M E N T U M are unanchoring towers in A-B. We're stealing them  |
OninoTimmo
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.06.06 13:04:00 - [ 586]
Zekongku is pretty terrible at eve |
Geddon4Life
Amarr
The Treehugger Corp
|
Posted - 2009.06.06 13:06:00 - [ 587]
Edited by: Geddon4Life on 06/06/2009 13:08:35The Kenny + Barbie + TyCoonSwarm invasion of H74 reminded me of something. Took a few moments, and then I rememberd.. This is just like some failed invasion on Cuba... That to lasted 2-3 days and some days of running after the battle being lost.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion#InvasionMolle : your tycoonswarm friends can not help you. |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Damu'Khonde |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:02:00 - [ 588]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
goons didn't even have esoteria towards the end, and even when they did they were sharing the highends with TCF and others
TCF replaced any losses with Deklein (HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
maybe RA lost out, but they were already dead a week or two into MAX so not as if it made any difference to coalition
ATLAS/Goons/TCF/-A-/ROL/sys-k/SE/c0ven all came out ahead so stop going on about this subject butter, just accept that you're wrong and move on, feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\
If you look at the sov map of the 'south' compared to 6 months ago, you see a whole new powerbloc which didn't exist before Goons did their rush for Delve. Stainwagon, RED Overlord, ATLAS, Aggression have all gained space and members. They also all dislike the Goons. You're correct that the Goons lost Esoteria before the rush for Delve, but so what? They still lost it. Ultimately the South has completely transformed into 'goons in delve' and then 'everyone else' (who is anti-goon). I'm not saying Delve isn't a nice region, it is. What I'm saying is that they've allowed a new powerbloc to rise which wants them dead. The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago. |
Zell Shadowcast
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:02:00 - [ 589]
Edited by: Zell Shadowcast on 06/06/2009 14:04:34At least a complete failure at all of levels of this invasion is the one thing that can't really be spun by anyone in their right mind. "Yeah, we didn't get all our towers down due to being overpowered, we didn't even online or stront most of them, and we haven't had system dominance since we laid them for two days causing us to lose 30 towers in h74 alone, down to the last one, with our offensive completely routed, our pets fleeing and unanchoring towers, and yet another in a long line of embarrassing defeats that proves we can do nothing without -A- and sometimes nothing with them! Good job guys. We showed those guys, tick tock be ready to X up for another mandatory call to arms!" Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
goons didn't even have esoteria towards the end, and even when they did they were sharing the highends with TCF and others
TCF replaced any losses with Deklein (HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
maybe RA lost out, but they were already dead a week or two into MAX so not as if it made any difference to coalition
ATLAS/Goons/TCF/-A-/ROL/sys-k/SE/c0ven all came out ahead so stop going on about this subject butter, just accept that you're wrong and move on, feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\
If you look at the sov map of the 'south' compared to 6 months ago, you see a whole new powerbloc which didn't exist before Goons did their rush for Delve.
Stainwagon, RED Overlord, ATLAS, Aggression have all gained space and members. They also all dislike the Goons. You're correct that the Goons lost Esoteria before the rush for Delve, but so what? They still lost it.
Ultimately the South has completely transformed into 'goons in delve' and then 'everyone else' (who is anti-goon). I'm not saying Delve isn't a nice region, it is. What I'm saying is that they've allowed a new powerbloc to rise which wants them dead.
The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago.
Thanks for proving that an empire guy has no real factual basis when predicting the actions of tens of thousands of pilots. |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Damu'Khonde |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:09:00 - [ 590]
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast
Thanks for proving that an empire guy has no real factual basis when predicting the actions of tens of thousands of pilots.
Please do tell me which part of my post is factually incorrect  |
Zell Shadowcast
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:10:00 - [ 591]
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Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:13:00 - [ 592]
Originally by: Butter Dog
The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago.
I don't think so. ROL/-A-/SE etc. have not shown themselves to be particularly aggressive nor offensively entities. They seem to work with an on/off switch more or less. And even if they didn't I don't think they could oust Goons. I don't buy what you're saying and there's not like you have a trackrecord that should make us sit up and listen. I think we have Delve/PB/Q firmly in the bag for the Goonsphere and for anyone to oust them it's gonna take something more than what's opposed them so far in these hoods. |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Damu'Khonde |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:18:00 - [ 593]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Butter Dog
The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago.
I don't think so. ROL/-A-/SE etc. have not shown themselves to be particularly aggressive nor offensively entities. They seem to work with an on/off switch more or less. And even if they didn't I don't think they could oust Goons.
I don't buy what you're saying and there's not like you have a trackrecord that should make us sit up and listen. I think we have Delve/PB/Q firmly in the bag for the Goonsphere and for anyone to oust them it's gonna take something more than what's opposed them so far in these hoods.
I think you need to factor in ATLAS into your thinking. They're a very significant power in the south now, and they're pretty aggressive. Ultimately, without the three largest alliances from the NC holding their hand, goons have very little ability to hold their own space. |
Soldis
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:33:00 - [ 594]
I predict all of Butter Dog's predictions, as in the past, will never materialize, but that won't stop him from posting as if he had any insight beyond hearsay and browsing public killboards. |
Yannak
Minmatar
5th Brigade
|
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:43:00 - [ 595]
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you need to factor in ATLAS into your thinking. They're a very significant power in the south now, and they're pretty aggressive.
Once Kenny failscades and -A- realises that Goons don't want their space watch them turn on Atlas and take their space. |
Zell Shadowcast
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:44:00 - [ 596]
butter dog, you see we are not confined we are focused we are the tiger before it was wounded |
Mr Rive
Gallente
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:47:00 - [ 597]
guys we should probably worry about ATLAS, by themselves they are a dangerous entity, to be taken seriously.
Oh wait no theyre not |
KayenTelva
Minmatar
The 5th Freedom
|
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:49:00 - [ 598]
Originally by: The Mittani
if jumping ship from skunkworks into aggression and moving to immensea isn't a cascade i don't know what is
'yase i know let us all join an alliance with a period in its name'
hahahaha nittens finally looked up from schlorking his own john and noticed the dark clouds in the sky classic |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Damu'Khonde |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:52:00 - [ 599]
Originally by: Mr Rive
guys we should probably worry about ATLAS, by themselves they are a dangerous entity, to be taken seriously.
Oh wait no theyre not
Isn't that what you said before suiciding your curse dread fleet into them? Also, can't recall the last time PL fielded 100 caps... ATLAS > PL The only thing of note PL has ever done alone is kill BRUCE. Not exactly 'challenge of the century', is it |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance |
Posted - 2009.06.06 14:52:00 - [ 600]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 06/06/2009 15:02:03 Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
goons didn't even have esoteria towards the end, and even when they did they were sharing the highends with TCF and others
TCF replaced any losses with Deklein (HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
maybe RA lost out, but they were already dead a week or two into MAX so not as if it made any difference to coalition
ATLAS/Goons/TCF/-A-/ROL/sys-k/SE/c0ven all came out ahead so stop going on about this subject butter, just accept that you're wrong and move on, feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\
If you look at the sov map of the 'south' compared to 6 months ago, you see a whole new powerbloc which didn't exist before Goons did their rush for Delve.
Stainwagon, RED Overlord, ATLAS, Aggression have all gained space and members. They also all dislike the Goons. You're correct that the Goons lost Esoteria before the rush for Delve, but so what? They still lost it.
Ultimately the South has completely transformed into 'goons in delve' and then 'everyone else' (who is anti-goon). I'm not saying Delve isn't a nice region, it is. What I'm saying is that they've allowed a new powerbloc to rise which wants them dead.
The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago.
Yeah goons lost part of Esoteria, but they never had all of it to themselves, so their r64 moon count went way up in the exchange, their new space is also a zillion times more defensible than their old, there's no possible way goons can be seen as having lost anything in the trade. Also i know for a fact Sys-K is not an aggressive entity, and they seem to provide most of the numbers from the stainwagon group, i don't think i agree with you on ATLAS either, sure they're aggressive, but they've shown no sign of being as good as the NC at remote deployment really really far from their home, which is what would be required for long periods of time (and they'd get hit at home by xdeath/ra/RA's petswarm if they did try it) -A- and ROL show zero desire for a trenchwar in Delve, and stainwagon won't do anything without a request from -A-, only reason stainwagon was involved in the firstplace was frankly stupid paranoia about goons coming after their space once bob was dead. This new powerblock exists yes, but it's only a threat to xdeath's block, kraftwerk, UNL etc i don't see kenny + gbc in their current state accomplishing anything even if all of NC went home, not as ong as PL are living in Fountain and goons don't failure cascade from excessive bikeriding. |
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