| Author |
Topic |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 10:53:00 - [ 1] - Quote
sais Tax-Rate 11% in the corporation info window on sisi. |
 Count Helmchen |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:02:00 - [ 2] - Quote
sounds like ccp is going to f*** off those mission runner in npc corps wohoooooo    |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:07:00 - [ 3] - Quote
**** them off ya
cant see how it would help anyone however.
people will just stay in npc corps and have 11% less income. i think its a bad change. |
 Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:14:00 - [ 4] - Quote
Maybe the extra isk sink is simply needed? And it still might drive people to make their own corps, or join established ones. |
 Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:20:00 - [ 5] - Quote
Hahahaha i said this was coming years ago. |
 Dedan Fusion Gallente Duty. Duty. Private Security |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:25:00 - [ 6] - Quote
Hell, raise it to 50%! |
 ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:32:00 - [ 7] - Quote
about freaking time if u ask me  |
 Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:33:00 - [ 8] - Quote
Originally by: Blane Xero Hahahaha i said this was coming years ago.
This, and the post above me, best change of dominion, or best change of dominion? |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:39:00 - [ 9] - Quote
yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money. |
 Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:44:00 - [ 10] - Quote
Originally by: Julian Lynq yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money.
Welcome to the real world (Of eve), where you have to be smart and group together with intelligent players to survive. I've ran my little 5 man + alt corp (Less if you count who is active) and we've never been "griefed" once, not in the whole 3 years it has been around. Stop making yourself a target. |
 Brad Therod |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:45:00 - [ 11] - Quote
Lol the tax would do ****e to anyone knowing anything about the game...
"High sec mission running corp with 5% tax looking for members, anyone is free to join"
Profit anyone? |
 DigitalCommunist November Corporation |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:47:00 - [ 12] - Quote
Originally by: Julian Lynq yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money.
Craaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwling in my coooooooooooooorp this huuuull will not repppppppppp |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:47:00 - [ 13] - Quote
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Julian Lynq yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money.
Welcome to the real world (Of eve), where you have to be smart and group together with intelligent players to survive.
I've ran my little 5 man + alt corp (Less if you count who is active) and we've never been "griefed" once, not in the whole 3 years it has been around. Stop making yourself a target.
ya fina. i am not you also there is no real world of eve. eve is a sandbox that means i can have choice. i not force you to play me game so i dont need play your game too. also yes very smart and intelligent play i forsee when 500 people corp wardec 2-3 people corp i guess they need very intelligent play for this. |
 Verone Gallente Veto Corp |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:50:00 - [ 14] - Quote
I disagree with the concept of applying this from the outset.
However, TQ should watch a player's time in NPC corps, and when the cumulative time reaches 90 days, the corp tax should start to be applied at 50% tbh.
So for instance if a rookie creates a character in the Federal Navy Academy, he has 90 days to make his first ISK and look for a player corporation. After that he starts to get taxed by [FNA] at 50%.
If he then joins a player corp, their tax applies as set by the CEO. If he leaves, one of the following two situations occurs.
If his time in NPC corporations is <90 days, the clock keeps ticking, so if he initially spent 40 days in an NPC corp before being employed then he has 50 days before the NPC corporation he's placed in upon leaving (I believe FNA starter end up in The Scope) starts to tax him at the rate of 50%.
If his time in NPC corporations is >90 days, he begins to get taxed at 50% immediately on leaving the player corporation.
Would sort out the issue of people being "immune" in high sec by hiding in NPC corps.
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 ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:50:00 - [ 15] - Quote
Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 19/09/2009 12:51:19 Originally by: Julian Lynq yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money.
look at it this way, now your actually paying concord for being safe from war dec's  not really unfair is it that your paying for protection if u ask me |
 Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:53:00 - [ 16] - Quote
Originally by: Julian Lynq 500 people corp wardec 2-3 people corp i guess they need very intelligent play for this.
GG exaggerating numbers. Also what makes my corp any different? We're 2-3 active carebears in Highsec. Never been bothered by Alliances or even corps looking for easy kills. And this is in a 3 year time span. This seems to fit the stereotype you are creating for the victim corps. Yet i aint no victim. |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:53:00 - [ 17] - Quote
why is this not in the preliminary patch notes ??*??? and not 1 word in dev blog too
ccp afraid of it ? need to put under the carpet ? |
 Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:57:00 - [ 18] - Quote
Edited by: Blane Xero on 19/09/2009 12:58:01 Originally by: Julian Lynq why is this not in the preliminary patch notes ??*??? and not 1 word in dev blog too
ccp afraid of it ? need to put under the carpet ?
Because compared to all the other things changing a NPC corp tax is extremely insignificant and is quite probably subject to wild changes? Edit: Why are you not responding to my legitimate posts? Afraid of something? need to put it under the carpet? |
 JitaPriceChecker2 |
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:58:00 - [ 19] - Quote
Originally by: Brad Therod Lol the tax would do ****e to anyone knowing anything about the game...
"High sec mission running corp with 5% tax looking for members, anyone is free to join"
Profit anyone?
They CAN BE WARDECCED. Good change CCP. |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:01:00 - [ 20] - Quote
Originally by: Blane Xero Edited by: Blane Xero on 19/09/2009 12:58:01
Originally by: Julian Lynq why is this not in the preliminary patch notes ??*??? and not 1 word in dev blog too
ccp afraid of it ? need to put under the carpet ?
Because compared to all the other things changing a NPC corp tax is extremely insignificant and is quite probably subject to wild changes?
Edit: Why are you not responding to my legitimate posts? Afraid of something? need to put it under the carpet?
insignificant ? only affecting largest part of the eve playerbase. yes that must be insignificant then. your posts are not interesting to me, thats why i dont respond to them. |
 Adam Ridgway Minmatar |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:03:00 - [ 21] - Quote
Cry more Julian...
I would like a variation of Verone suggestion: - After 90 days players are automatclly moved to non-starter NPC corps that can be targets of opposing militia. - Taxes start at 0 in these corps but increase dynamically each week (until they reach 50%). - Time in player corps compute to reduce taxes back to 0 (so if you spend 2 months on a NPC corp you will need to spend 2 months in a player corp to reduce taxes back to 0). - Players in NPC corps can't use freighters, BS/BC (neither T2 cruisers or T3 hulls) or capitals. |
 Xephys Dark Twilight Solutions |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:08:00 - [ 22] - Quote
Haha, the amount of tears from Julian is astounding.
What is it carebears say everytime a big PvP change happens? Learn to adapt? Yeah, that's right. |
 Julian Lynq |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:13:00 - [ 23] - Quote
i dont care what you pvp people think or say. i play the game long enough to be allowed a whine now too. all of you that say its a good change must be very bad in pvp too when u need to attack mission runner corps. |
 RedSplat Noir. |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:14:00 - [ 24] - Quote
About ****ing time- you want 99% safe Highsec?
You pay for it. |
 Okonaa |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:14:00 - [ 25] - Quote
wow, not sure what i think about that change but i think its great. |
 CCP Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2009.09.19 13:20:00 - [ 26] - Quote
Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 19/09/2009 13:22:14It's not in the sisi patch notes because I don't know how to edit them, I think I have to mail them to someone who has access to it and then it is edited in. This hsn't been properly set up yet but for the next sisi update I think there will be more and more accurate notes ( at least from me) It's a change meant to encourage people to join a player corporation and ofcourse concord needs to pay wages to their pilots on a regular basis  Oh we came to 11% after researching what the average tax was in player corporations, the NPC tax is a little bit above that average. |
 Rexthor Hammerfists Rage of Inferno Burning Ambition |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:32:00 - [ 27] - Quote
Its a great change and i love the fact that its 11%, hopefully itll be an eye opener to many - im also glad you have the balls to go through with this (no pun intended)
Keep it up ccp. |
 Eve Spair Caldari Space Perverts D0GS OF WAR |
Posted - 2009.09.19 13:47:00 - [ 28] - Quote
this is a great change. i always thought there should be some kind of penalty for being in an NPC corp and this does that quite nicely. |
 LifeLines Capital Construction Research |
Posted - 2009.09.19 14:05:00 - [ 29] - Quote
Originally by: Julian Lynq yes sure best change... why not make wardecs free also ? so all of you super leet people can declare war on the new 1 man corps?and raise tax to 100%. also great of ccp not having the balls to put it in change notes-no wait make it 120% so people acutally loose money and make wardecs give the deccing corp 1b isk instead of costing money.
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW NO MORE 100% RISKLESS MISSIONING im mission runner but i love this change. plz increase tax to 33% or more and reduce war deccing costs by the same amount. THANK YOU! |
 Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS |
Posted - 2009.09.19 14:05:00 - [ 30] - Quote
Needs to be MUCH MORE than 11%. More like 25-50%. Making it 'comparable' to most player corps isn't going to be a large enough stick to prod the carebears into player corps. |