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DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:09:00 - [ 1]
Ok, it's not quite 6 months but the reasons for this early post shall become clear in this post.
Before I begin the crux of this thread, a quick summary of what happened this month with a couple of bigger PA corps remaining.
CDI were ripped apart internally when BigSharkDog (who some will remember from his ramblings to Jade about taking over the world) stole all the company assets including at least 4 BS BPO's.
NSN/SLI/Blade/ASW have all but abandoned Venal. They put together a fleet at the start of the month which was promptly dispersed and they never returned.
So, onto the crux of this thread.
In the last 6 months, the areas of Venal, Tenal and Branch have been contested by over 100 corporations in a war that has destroyed billions of assets on either side and one that has seen some of the worst fighting in Eve to date.
For the first 4 months, there was war. Alliances raging against each other, everyday the enemy of PA put together fleets to fight us. Everyday we set up hunts to go and kill them. Evol, RKK and m0o fought outnumbered in Venal against mass blobs everynight.
We killed.
We died.
But more importantly, we fought.
For the last 2 months, there has been a change in the fighting from PA. For the first four months, the PA could put together a fleet. This month we have seen one fleet consisting of NSN, SLI and Bladerunners at the start of the month. That was the last major fleet they constructed. Apparently there are a few GODS members who make a small fleet at around 2am when most of BoB is asleep.
/me shrugs
If that is the only time GODS can play, then for those 4 hours when we are asleep, Venal, Tenal and Branch is yours. We care not, we are not looking to dominate 24/7 at this point in the game. 20/7 is fine for us.
For the rest of the day, there is no war. There is no PA resistance. There is simply PA members in space attempting to do some npc hunting, hiding from us or sitting in safespots awaiting a quick gank on one of our members when we are doing other stuff.
So let me repeat that.
There is no war.
There is no state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.
So PA can come and tell us how they are not dead, how they are actually fighting everyday and so on.
It's simply not the case.
A member of Cataclysm Enterprises once called Reikoku "insignificant". I lay that claim at the threat your alliance causes to our homeland.
PA is an insignificant threat to the day to day runnings of BoB.
So what does this mean exactly?
Well, we will continue to kill remaining PA members in Venal, Tenal and Branch. It is our home.
Those few corporations who for the most part have had nothing to do with the cause of the war who have spoken about getting out of the war, may come and speak to us and we will come to some arrangement about allowing you to remain in the region similar to the mining corporations who live in BKG.
Finally, Venal, Tenal and Branch is during the main hours we play (so from let's just say DT until 2am gametime) is under BoB control. Unless PA fleets begin to be restructured and a concerted effort comes against us again, we will go back to a state of war.
So those who still think this is a war, take a step back, look at your allies, look at your homeland and finally, look at what you really want to do for the next 6 months, if it is to safespot in fear from us inside Venal while corporations like R-K and CE abandoned you to your fate, then so be it but it will not be war and don't kid yourself with that.
This will be the last war report I write about the PA, unless they are capable of making this a war again.
Thanks to all who have read these reports and thanks to all who have made this war one of the most fun times I've had in Eve.
dbp
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SirMolle
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:11:00 - [ 2]
So very true. What left now is random pirates, who choose to pirate our space.
It was fun, it was good, you fought well.
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Shamad Conde
Gallente
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:13:00 - [ 3]
Trying to convince yourself of doing something grand? |
Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:18:00 - [ 4]
Flaming and denial wil ensue from here, but fact remains that there hardly can be talk of a northern war anymore these days.
All it remains is a northern struggle by the few remaining PA members putting in a largely valiant and commendable effort with their limited means, but it will not get them their space back.
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AsaR
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:21:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: AsaR on 12/11/2004 14:28:28
By now the PA must be seeing the game over screen. The Big Black one at the end of the game, you get it when you have lost. The game IS over, you lost, now lets not make yourselves look foolish by hitting continue on a game you can not possibly win.
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edit:/added sexy line\: |
Moe Sczyzlak
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:27:00 - [ 6]
I have nothing to add to this thread as I know nothing at all about the northern war.
I just dropped by to say that evols sigs are pretty cool. |
Presidio
Minmatar
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:28:00 - [ 7]
Here we go, another we won you're dead thread. Keep em comming...
The killboards however tell a different story.
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The End
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:29:00 - [ 8]
i say page 2 before this gets locked.
the other ones get locked real fast too :)
nothing but trolling |
Gunstar Zero
Caldari
Reikoku
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:32:00 - [ 9]
GG, well fought, those who did. |
Recluse XXX
Caldari
Lightsbane Corp
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:33:00 - [ 10]
 Originally by: DB Preacher
NSN/SLI/Blade/ASW have all but abandoned Venal. They put together a fleet at the start of the month which was promptly dispersed and they never returned.
First of all, I seldom enter these forums sober, but I just had to make an exeption this time... The fleet you are talking about consisted of NSN/BLADES/SLI and CEI...not ASW. And we had ONE battle. That we were dispersed is a total lie as we won that battle (you were not there btw). And before all of BoB jumps in and screams that you were outnumberd and such and such, I can tell you that you were. We had 22 BS to your 15-17 plus we had more support ships. GF and fun for all...the thing is that we had the same fleet going for 3-4 days whitout getting engaged again so we got bored and went on to do what we have been doing all along in this conflict, roaming and ganking (and dying  ). I cant speak for the rest of the PA but the Swedes like it in the north and will not move...so, bring it, and at the end of this mounth you can waste our time whit yet another report. //Rec |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:33:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Presidio
Here we go, another we won you're dead thread. Keep em comming...
The killboards however tell a different story.
nah, even the killboards are completely dried up. You should log on during a day and get PA organised if you feel there is peeps there to fight. Until there is proper fighting again and a concerted effort by PA to stop us going by our day to day stuff then... /me shrugs. The war is over Presidio, there is nothing left. dbp |
Sewell
Minmatar
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:34:00 - [ 12]
Evolution/BoB are not retreating from Venal - they are just advancing in the opposite direction...
Another month, another "PA is dead" thread *sigh*. Just because you say someting over and over again does not make it true DBP, you should have learned that by now.
PA are still here, EVOL say they are leaving, whatever - see you down the barrel of a gun one day or another I guess. |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:35:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Recluse XXX
Originally by: DB Preacher
NSN/SLI/Blade/ASW have all but abandoned Venal. They put together a fleet at the start of the month which was promptly dispersed and they never returned.
First of all, I seldom enter these forums sober, but I just had to make an exeption this time...
The fleet you are talking about consisted of NSN/BLADES/SLI and CEI...not ASW. And we had ONE battle. That we were dispersed is a total lie as we won that battle (you were not there btw).
And before all of BoB jumps in and screams that you were outnumberd and such and such, I can tell you that you were. We had 22 BS to your 15-17 plus we had more support ships. GF and fun for all...the thing is that we had the same fleet going for 3-4 days whitout getting engaged again so we got bored and went on to do what we have been doing all along in this conflict, roaming and ganking (and dying ).
I cant speak for the rest of the PA but the Swedes like it in the north and will not move...so, bring it, and at the end of this mounth you can waste our time whit yet another report.
//Rec
/me shrugs again. Haven't seen a Fleet since. Don't expect to see a fleet in the future. You spend more time out of venal than you do in it. We live in Venal, you don't. The swedes in your corp might like it as a holiday resort to pirate some corps but we call it home and actually live there. If you want to change that, move back in en masse to venal. Otherwise, the war is STILL over. dbp |
The Clash
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:36:00 - [ 14]
Quote:
CDI were ripped apart internally when BigSharkDog (who some will remember from his ramblings to Jade about taking over the world) stole all the company assets including at least 4 BS BPO's.
How blind or unwillingly can you be to read ? He did not stole any assets from CDI at all , when he left he left with his own assets period . Its truly amazing how outsiders now everything better then teh insiders but then again fightin this is like talkin to a brick wall .... useless ....  . . |
The End
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:36:00 - [ 15]
Evol & co are the mobile gank fleet alliance hehe
They come they kill they leave.
keeps the game fun
everyone needs a big war to keep the game interesting |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:38:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Sewell
Evolution/BoB are not retreating from Venal - they are just advancing in the opposite direction...
Another month, another "PA is dead" thread *sigh*. Just because you say someting over and over again does not make it true DBP, you should have learned that by now.
PA are still here, EVOL say they are leaving, whatever - see you down the barrel of a gun one day or another I guess.
No, we are not going anywhere. The north is our home. PA is not still here. You have taken the mass of your corps out of venal. Bladerunners has maybe at best 40 members. About 4 of them live in Venal. The war is STILL over, if you choose to fight, you are now pirating us with a couple of members from safespots. dbp |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:39:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: The Clash
Quote:
CDI were ripped apart internally when BigSharkDog (who some will remember from his ramblings to Jade about taking over the world) stole all the company assets including at least 4 BS BPO's.
How blind or unwillingly can you be to read ?
He did not stole any assets from CDI at all , when he left he left with his own assets period .
Its truly amazing how outsiders now everything better then teh insiders but then again fightin this is like talkin to a brick wall .... useless ....
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Funny because those 4 BS BPo's were Krulldari's. So unless you are now going to state that BigSharkDog was in fact Krulldari? You should be careful if you do suggest that after some of the comments from PA members about BigSharkDog. dbp |
Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:42:00 - [ 18]
Yay, I'm either dead or a pirate. What else is new? ;)
And for an accurate non bs view of how the war goes please look at:
http://pa.stylii.com/
http://www.killboard.net/
Compare those two and you'll know. |
The Clash
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:47:00 - [ 19]
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Detaitiv
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:47:00 - [ 20]
One observation about the north.
I have a more difficult time not getting ganked by PA then I do BoB. There seem to be a lot more PA. They seem to be rather in control aside from the occasional BoB mini blob. PA may just be finding it rather pointless to bother with you guys since you only engage when you have a clear advantage. Sounds like very dull play. |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:48:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Fred0
Yay, I'm either dead or a pirate. What else is new? ;)
And for an accurate non bs view of how the war goes please look at:
http://pa.stylii.com/
http://www.killboard.net/
Compare those two and you'll know.
Yep, you will know there is **** all going on but ganks when one of the few remaining PA members takes his eye off the map for a few seconds while npc'ing. Or when a bunch of BoB decide to go and try and take on stupid odds because it's the only we can get to shoot stuff. It's definitely NOT war. dbp |
DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:50:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Detaitiv
One observation about the north.
I have a more difficult time not getting ganked by PA then I do BoB. There seem to be a lot more PA. They seem to be rather in control aside from the occasional BoB mini blob. PA may just be finding it rather pointless to bother with you guys since you only engage when you have a clear advantage. Sounds like very dull play.
On the contrary, the only time we get an engagement is when we are outnumbered. As for control, when there is nothing in a system, we do not need to be sat in that system. If there is people safespotted or docked in a system, we do not need to be sat in that system. We are still in control of those systems. dbp |
TWD
Minmatar
Evolution
KenZoku |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:52:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Recluse XXX
The fleet you are talking about consisted of NSN/BLADES/SLI and CEI...not ASW. And we had ONE battle. That we were dispersed is a total lie as we won that battle (you were not there btw).
we engaged a gang with around 40 people with our 24 people gang. hm? no offense, but that fight continued all over the system. as result the remaining PA went to safe, and the score ended up being pretty even. the fact that we were still there holding the ground, could be seen as a victory for us. whenever we bring close to even numbers, you go safe, and you know it  After that fight it seemed every PA corp for itself, and didn't see any PA resistance in venal whatsoever. |
Kronarty
Amarr
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2004.11.12 14:54:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: The Clash
Third , this post shows how much you know 
Actually, how LITTLE. |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari
Death Pain Suffering
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Posted - 2004.11.12 14:54:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Detaitiv
One observation about the north.
I have a more difficult time not getting ganked by PA then I do BoB. There seem to be a lot more PA. They seem to be rather in control aside from the occasional BoB mini blob. PA may just be finding it rather pointless to bother with you guys since you only engage when you have a clear advantage. Sounds like very dull play.
On the contrary, the only time we get an engagement is when we are outnumbered.
As for control, when there is nothing in a system, we do not need to be sat in that system.
If there is people safespotted or docked in a system, we do not need to be sat in that system.
We are still in control of those systems.
dbp
You bored? You un-fulfilled? You seem to be... Get out a bit, breathe in the nice fresh air, dance with the birds and deers... feel the love. Aneu  |
iLLumino
Caldari
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2004.11.12 15:03:00 - [ 26]
Hehe, this post made me giggle DBP posts are the funniest.. |
Kronarty
Amarr
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2004.11.12 15:07:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Or when a bunch of BoB decide to go and try and take on stupid odds because it's the only we can get to shoot stuff.
I thought there were no PA in Venal... now you say you fight stupid odds... Asking you to stick to the truth is pointless, so at least stick to a version of your story. Not many people will believe you anyways, but it will look better. |
Kronarty
Amarr
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2004.11.12 15:18:00 - [ 28]
Welcome to yet another "The PA is dead" thread by SirMolle's mini-me aka db preacher.
BoB keep on dying, more corps join the PA regularly, others show interest in doing so, all CDI's assets are in CDI's hangars, PA corps are all doing their job, we are mining when we feel like it, chaining when we want to, chasing enemies out of our areas of operation when they dare show up.
How many times must we explain that wars can't be won by posting "I won" threads? Doubleclick eve.exe, type loginname, password, connect.*
The only BoB I saw yesterday was Galavet sneaking into p-vyvl for a whole minute before logging at a safespot.
And the last action I got was 4 BoB in 2x100MN AB cruisers sitting at a gate that we proceeded to gank with cheap ass frigates having lots of fun in the process...
* Some BoB people may need to download the latest TQ patch as well, been a while since a few of them showed up in game. Also make sure you select TRANQUILITY server.
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Lowa
Gallente
North Star Networks
Systematic-Chaos |
Posted - 2004.11.12 15:19:00 - [ 29]
Oh! Look! We are now 2 pages and its still open! Can somebody give me the name and address of a good Italian restaurant in London please? Thanks! Regards, LOWA |
Kujin
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2004.11.12 15:22:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak
I have nothing to add to this thread as I know nothing at all about the northern war.
I just dropped by to say that evols sigs are pretty cool.
yep they´re fantastic.. best ones i´ve seen so far :)  Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
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