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ElvenLord
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.01 23:39:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ElvenLord on 03/01/2010 14:02:22
The system of Corporate Roles as it presently exists is confusing, frustrating, and overly prescriptive.
As a result it is often misused and abused, gets in the way of corporation leaders empowering their members as it forces to entrust too much or not enough in many cases, and isn't suited to the growing needs for pan/inter-alliance roles. Partially current system is to blame for closing part of gameplay to majority of players (like POSs) and one of main obstacles in doing the much needed overhaul of management tools (like station management tools, corporation management tools, POS management etc).

One of the solution would be to move away from the prescriptive model of predefined Corporate roles bestowed upon individuals, and toward a system of privileges granted to User Groups (UG) defined freely by the players, and applied to in-game 'objects'.
The general spirit of the model is inspired by the permissions/accesses and users management in effect in many forum engines, computer storage file-systems and Operating Systems, all tried and true solutions EVE users (and player organizations managers especially) are more likely to be familiar with than any newfangled 'original' model.
This much more 'sandboxy' approach to player self-governance inside Alliances and Corporations is in line with EVE overall design, and creates a wealth of opportunities for emergent gameplay once players have the tools to create whatever form of social contract they deem appropriate, instead of the current 'one-size-fits-none' corporate layout imposed on them.

Design goal is to provide more flexibility and a finer granularity in Corporation and Alliance governance, and give players the freedom to decide how they want to organize and rule their own groups, as opposed to CCP guessing from the top-down "what's best for them".

a bit more in wiki

Jorgan Niklow
Posted - 2010.01.02 00:44:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Jorgan Niklow on 02/01/2010 00:44:44
I support an Overhaul of Corporation roles, it needs lots of work on the UI making it more user friendly as well as adding more roles and being more adjustable to the needs of the corporation. Now it is often either too much or too little, things like spending limits on wallets, limitations to grantable wallet divisions, as well as setting limits on the number of 'transactions' that can occur in a time period (24hr, 48hr, week, etc). It is silly that so many roles are weak in their customization and security for a 'corporation'.

GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
Posted - 2010.01.02 01:49:00 - [3]
 

very much supported

Kazara Isatoh
Posted - 2010.01.02 02:44:00 - [4]
 

i agree with this wholeheartedly, in fact I posted an idea similar to this in one of my omnibus posts

Idea Omnibus #2, Idea #1


If you want more background as to why the role system is the way it is now, it was discussed a little bit in this thread,

in four words "64 bit role flag"

supported

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.01.02 03:25:00 - [5]
 

Oh lord(no pun intended), I support this so very much. While we're at it, can we get "anchor new POS" and "unanchor old POS" split, along with "install corp industry jobs" and "cancel other people's corp industry jobs"? Because I hear that those would both be kind of convenient.

Johnathan Roark
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.02 03:43:00 - [6]
 

I'm all for improvement on the corp interface and roles. Here are some of my ideas on the subject:
Office Roles (corporation improvement) This was to allow definable groups of offices to go with Headquarters, Other, and based at.

Related, but not the same. It was asking for an option to set a corp contract to a title or division
Corp Contracts to Titles

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 04:15:00 - [7]
 

Yes, definitely. The corp roles interface needs a complete overhaul.

Jared Ulfsuun
Posted - 2010.01.02 08:44:00 - [8]
 


steave435
Caldari
Final Agony
B A N E
Posted - 2010.01.02 09:38:00 - [9]
 


SolarKnight
Gallente
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Shadows of Light
Posted - 2010.01.02 21:40:00 - [10]
 

The corp interface is probably the most difficult to use and most confusing part of the entire game, it desperately needs fixing.

Sokratesz


Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:36:00 - [11]
 

Supported!

Xavin Nydek
Ars ex Discordia
Posted - 2010.01.04 05:59:00 - [12]
 


McEivalley
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.04 08:32:00 - [13]
 

10/10

Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Eve Industrial Corp

Posted - 2010.01.04 09:47:00 - [14]
 

Fully support this call for overhauling the much maligned and in need of update User Interface known laughingly as 'corporation management' - or How to screw things up in one click if you're not careful.

Battleangel Libby
Stellar Solutions Factory
Posted - 2010.01.04 14:05:00 - [15]
 


Cassini Moons
Posted - 2010.01.04 22:06:00 - [16]
 

Yes please.

The current roles system is so disfunctional it's not even funny anymore.

Traderjohn
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:36:00 - [17]
 


Vlajko san
Caldari
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:36:00 - [18]
 

Re5pect!

Endis
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:36:00 - [19]
 


Hidetoshi Rushd
Caldari
Manhaj of Hejaz
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:37:00 - [20]
 

All hail the Elv!

Delphi Disra
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:37:00 - [21]
 

agreed :)

Majst0r
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:37:00 - [22]
 

Idea

Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:39:00 - [23]
 


Excello
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:42:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Excello on 04/01/2010 23:42:36

Eric Everhard
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:43:00 - [25]
 

overdue imo

scsxx
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:44:00 - [26]
 


Mel'Inda
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:45:00 - [27]
 


Slyferz
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:46:00 - [28]
 


Mips64
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:46:00 - [29]
 


mr kion
Gallente
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2010.01.04 23:48:00 - [30]
 

Awaited by many many players, go ccp


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