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Mass-Testing 2.0 - Summer 2010 Expansion edition (Updated: September 2)

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CCP Tanis	Posted - 2010.02.11 18:47:00 - [1] - Quote Report Howdy Folks, As announced in my Dev Blog, we are now in the next phase of the Mass-Testing project. We will now be holding tests on Tuesdays or Thursdays and directly sending invites to medium and large alliances. These tests will help us assess how well the new expansion performs and thus help us identify any areas that need to be cleaned up to prevent lag from getting out to TQ. We need at least 300 pilots, preferably 500+… the more people who show up, the better. _________________________________ Test schedule: [Dates last updated: August 30] Upcoming: Thursday [September 2] @ 20:00 GMT Thursday [September 9] @ 20:00 GMT Completed: Thursday [August 26] @ 20:00 GMT - ~200 players Thursday [August 19] @ 20:00 GMT - ~380 players ___________________ Alliance Leaders! If your alliance would like to participate in this testing, please send an in-game mail to "CCP Habakuk" that you'd like to get involved. Note that Mass-Tests are open to EVERYONE, whether you are in an alliance or not. If your account isn't active on SiSi, you should visit the Reactivation thread to get that fixed. How to connect to Singularity for this test: Follow the steps at http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity Or: Try the now Sisi launcher tool! What exactly is being tested? Influence of spamming the jump button on the jump process, module lag, EVE-Voice Test will begin in F67E-Q Players will be separated into two fleets, X and W Jump from F67E-Q to MHC-R3, spam-click the "jump" button Select the F67E-Q stargate and spam-click the "Orbit" button Warp to planet I, spam the "warp" button Warp to F67E-Q gate, spam the "warp" button Jump from MHC-R3 to F67E-Q, spam the "jump" button Select the MHC-R3 stargate and spam-click the "Orbit" button Warp to the Poitot gate Jump from F67E-Q to Poitot (only click once) Setup camp with Fleet W in X-BV98, warp Fleet X to the X-B gate in Poitot Jump Fleet X to X-BV98, massive fight PROFIT! What do I need to do exactly? Try running logServer (in server mode), read here if you're not sure how. Join the channel "MassTesting" You will want to bring a fleet-setup dread, carrier, BS or smaller. You should pay attention to your FPS (use ctrl+f to view in-game) Anyone able to use multiple accounts is strongly encouraged to bring their alts! What else should I know? You can get more testing information by subscribing to the "Mass Testing Info" mailing list on TQ! CCP staff and ISD will be on hand prior to the test to help move players to the starting location. Don't forget to fill out the feedback thread after the test.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.02.12 02:32:00 - [2] - Quote Report Is it ok to reply to this thread? Hope so, if not feel free to push this post to wherever its supposed to be (I can't see for sure). Can I please ask that the following 'standard series of events' gets tested as well please: Defenders get 30% of the people on their side, aggressors have 70% Titan Bridge aggressors into system (caps and lower hull classes) Fire some bombs at the people arriving from the cyno Fleet warp Aggressors to the same grid as the defenders Drop drones Blow up some carriers with a full compliment of 1000s of drones I shall try to be there for this as well.
Xain deSleena	Posted - 2010.02.12 04:02:00 - [3] - Quote Report I am beginning to like your threads more and more CCP Tanis. I admire you and your teams hard work. What I like more is that once you have nailed the Lag Monster into it's coffin we will then see who truly rules EVE. Xain
Jack bubu Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.12 08:26:00 - [4] - Quote Report Reading the title makes me curious.. does that mean we see first bits of the next expansion on february 20th on SiSi ? :)
Van Haulen	Posted - 2010.02.12 09:08:00 - [5] - Quote Report Will you make a fresh mirror of TQ before this? The most recent one is getting a bit old and some people (me!) can't log in on Sisi.
something somethingdark	Posted - 2010.02.12 10:29:00 - [6] - Quote Report How about NO Lots of good reasons why not in the comment thread for the devblog.
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.02.12 10:46:00 - [7] - Quote Report Originally by: Xain deSleena I am beginning to like your threads more and more CCP Tanis. I admire you and your teams hard work. What I like more is that once you have nailed the Lag Monster into it's coffin we will then see who truly rules EVE. Xain I agree. Communication is the key. Talk to us (the little guy) and we will understand. Silence is always interpreted as indifference. More devs/mods need to have a dialog with the end user instead of the standard "locked for lack of content."
David Grogan Gallente	Posted - 2010.02.12 12:05:00 - [8] - Quote Report Originally by: Spurty Is it ok to reply to this thread? Hope so, if not feel free to push this post to wherever its supposed to be (I can't see for sure). Can I please ask that the following 'standard series of events' gets tested as well please: Defenders get 30% of the people on their side, aggressors have 70% Titan Bridge aggressors into system (caps and lower hull classes) Fire some bombs at the people arriving from the cyno Fleet warp Aggressors to the same grid as the defenders Drop drones Blow up some carriers with a full compliment of 1000s of drones I shall try to be there for this as well. valid points for testing add warp disruptor bubbles/dictor bubbles at the gates too as the effects of this will also add to the lag one that i have to disable or I lag out completely is new ecm burst and sensor booster effects
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2010.02.12 15:33:00 - [9] - Quote Report I doubt that any alliance is going to want to commit any significant fraction of their pilots to a test server fleet fight at a known time and date, as this would be an ideal opportunity for other people to attack their strategic assets. I would suggest having the mass test coincide with a downtime on TQ, possibly shifting the usual downtime so that it takes place during peak player hours. This would be a welcome break for the Aussies and will encourage many more people, who might not otherwise want to get involved, to take part.
Neo Gabriel Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.02.12 15:44:00 - [10] - Quote Report If you make so that for one day or one weekend, for testing purposes, no sovereignty disruptors or POS are allowed to be onlined, I think you will get a lot more pilots to join in the testing. If the alliance doesn't have to worry about invasion and is not able to invade anything they may just as well join in for fun. To get an even better turnout, allow some sort of reward for people who participate during the entire duration of the test. I don't know what but give them 50mil isk or something for their troubles.
Jack bubu Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.12 17:22:00 - [11] - Quote Report If anyone decided to attack sovereignity in that time, it takes like a minute to log into TQ and form up.. thats not a issue at all
DoNotTouch	Posted - 2010.02.12 17:31:00 - [12] - Quote Report Originally by: Jack bubu If anyone decided to attack sovereignity in that time, it takes like a minute to log into TQ and form up.. thats not a issue at all ^this
Multipurpose Cleaner	Posted - 2010.02.12 19:07:00 - [13] - Quote Report Originally by: something somethingdark How about NO Lots of good reasons why not in the comment thread for the devblog. Translation: 'FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU CCCCCCCPPPP MY GAMEZ IZ LAGGY WTF U SUK DONKEY *******S RAAAAAAAGEEEE ' CCP: Hey dudes, we're doing some mass testing soon. Come help us identify the source of lag. 'FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU NO WAI I DON'T WANT TO HELP I JUST WANT TO COMPLAIN' GG 0.0 peeps
something somethingdark	Posted - 2010.02.12 20:01:00 - [14] - Quote Report have you like even read the mentioned thread ?
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2010.02.12 21:28:00 - [15] - Quote Report I'm just curious, how hard is it to add a check by the server to see if the grid has loaded on the client side before actually placing the ship in the grid? For instance, if I understand this correctly, the client makes a call to the server, server runs the same call on a server-run version of the game, populates the grid, places the user in the grid, then passes back to the user the updated grid in real-time, etc. Why not place the character in limbo while loading the grid, then check to make sure the user's client has loaded the grid properly, then place the ship in the grid. This way, you can't warp into a system and everyone already in the grid sees your ship, and has a chance to fire on it, before the client realizes it hasn't loaded the grid yet. I'm just a simple flash developer, but if I were making a simpler version in flash or java I'd make sure both clients have the same information, and show the user a "loading grid" message or loading animation. Then once everything has loaded, fade everything in nicely, and only after everything is visible for the user, is it represented in local. Not the other way around. But then again I'm just a lowly flash dev, I'm sure it's more complicated than that
Seurimas	Posted - 2010.02.13 00:03:00 - [16] - Quote Report I'd just like to say that Dev's of Eve are a league of their own based primarily on: Quote: First of a new breed You folks have been saying that you want test events that are held at more opportune times for you, and we've listened! These tests do indeed require as many players as we can get, but holding events on weekends or too late into the evenings, on a regular basis, is not as easy to coordinate as one might think. Even game developers and testers have real lives, families, and friends that they enjoy spending time with too. But, we aren't afraid of change, so we've worked out staffing and, from now and into the future, we will be holding test events on weekends, close to peak hours. There will be exceptions to this rule, if critical issues come up that require special testing, but we hope that this new schedule makes participating in these events much easier for you all. The first event in this new series will be held on Saturday, February 20 at 20:00 GMT This first test will be a return to our standard "fleet fight and POS siege" format, with some tweaks and slight changes, look for an official test announcement thread in the General Discussion forums in the coming days. We will post full details and goals for the test there. That. I've played a handful of starting-up, closed beta, open beta, and relatively tiny and everywhere in between MMOs and none of them have the kind of admin/dev feedback/commitment that Eve has.
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.02.13 05:29:00 - [17] - Quote Report Originally by: Jack bubu Reading the title makes me curious.. does that mean we see first bits of the next expansion on february 20th on SiSi ? :) The new expansion is called "Mass Testing" D'uh
ZeTiger 0109	Posted - 2010.02.13 14:58:00 - [18] - Quote Report Originally by: Multipurpose Cleaner Originally by: something somethingdark How about NO Lots of good reasons why not in the comment thread for the devblog. Translation: 'FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU CCCCCCCPPPP MY GAMEZ IZ LAGGY WTF U SUK DONKEY *****S RAAAAAAAGEEEE ' CCP: Hey dudes, we're doing some mass testing soon. Come help us identify the source of lag. 'FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU NO WAI I DON'T WANT TO HELP I JUST WANT TO COMPLAIN' GG 0.0 peeps Mate are you ok because without your help and help of others ccp cannot fix the lag issue.I am in Aussie land and we get lots more lag than you do because of where we are. The lag issue could be from your isp or internet connection. If thats not the problem could be your computer. At least i dont winge about the lag issue. I have been in large fleet fights and yes there is ** loads of lag. In the mean time do some missioning, ratting, ect. And wait untill ccp fixes the problem.
icelicker	Posted - 2010.02.13 18:31:00 - [19] - Quote Report Edited by: icelicker on 13/02/2010 18:31:45 Originally by: CCP Tanis Howdy Folks, These tests will help us assess how well the new expansion performs and thus help us identify any areas that need to be cleaned up to prevent lag from getting out to TQ. I'm guessing new expansion means the latest (2months) e.g Dominion and not "New" As in coming soon Tm. Testing yes shall be there.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.02.13 20:38:00 - [20] - Quote Report Originally by: CCP Tanis Test schedule: Saturday [February 20] @ 20:00 GMT By 20:00 do you mean "Maybe possibly some time long after 20:00"? 20:38 and not so much as a peep from CCP/BH on the server yet.
Ruziel Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex	Posted - 2010.02.13 21:44:00 - [21] - Quote Report Originally by: Seth Ruin Originally by: CCP Tanis Test schedule: Saturday [February 20] @ 20:00 GMT By 20:00 do you mean "Maybe possibly some time long after 20:00"? 20:38 and not so much as a peep from CCP/BH on the server yet. Read the date again, you're a week early.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.02.14 06:30:00 - [22] - Quote Report Originally by: Ruziel Originally by: Seth Ruin Originally by: CCP Tanis Test schedule: Saturday [February 20] @ 20:00 GMT By 20:00 do you mean "Maybe possibly some time long after 20:00"? 20:38 and not so much as a peep from CCP/BH on the server yet. Read the date again, you're a week early.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.14 08:31:00 - [23] - Quote Report I just have to ask, what does this have to do with the summer expansion
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.14 11:50:00 - [24] - Quote Report a guess would be getting an idea of lag sources before they begin to rollout the next expansion
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.02.15 05:06:00 - [25] - Quote Report Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I just have to ask, what does this have to do with the summer expansion Mass-Testing 2.0 is going to be the name of the summer expansion, duhhhh.
0racle Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers	Posted - 2010.02.15 08:58:00 - [26] - Quote Report If this is the tesing for the Incarna Expansion, something tells me people are going to be spending alot more time beating the crap out of eachother in a attempt to produce loss of SP than actually fleet testing, hehe.
SlayerOfArgus Gallente Hermes Enterprises	Posted - 2010.02.15 16:40:00 - [27] - Quote Report I'll be there with my alt. I'll also see who I can bring from my alliance. Can anyone tell me whether or not you get reimbursed if your ship is destroyed? I've never done the testing before so I am just wondering how that part works. Also do your skills get maxed out or do you use what skills you have? I had heard of people having their skills maxed out for some tests. Again, just trying to get information.
Jack bubu Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.15 19:00:00 - [28] - Quote Report Originally by: 0racle If this is the tesing for the Incarna Expansion, something tells me people are going to be spending alot more time beating the crap out of eachother in a attempt to produce loss of SP than actually fleet testing, hehe. summer expansion is not incarna...
Msquare	Posted - 2010.02.15 22:52:00 - [29] - Quote Report Originally by: SlayerOfArgus Can anyone tell me whether or not you get reimbursed if your ship is destroyed? It works just like on the real server. Remember though, this is a copy of your character (and all the Item&ISKs) taken some time (a few weeks(?)) ago from Tranquilty onto Singularity, so you do not need to cry. You can easily buy a new ship&setup ... almost everything is priced at 100 ISK at some stations. Sometimes yor skills are maxed out, mostly not.
SlayerOfArgus Gallente Hermes Enterprises	Posted - 2010.02.16 00:16:00 - [30] - Quote Report Originally by: Msquare Originally by: SlayerOfArgus Can anyone tell me whether or not you get reimbursed if your ship is destroyed? It works just like on the real server. Remember though, this is a copy of your character (and all the Item&ISKs) taken some time (a few weeks(?)) ago from Tranquilty onto Singularity, so you do not need to cry. You can easily buy a new ship&setup ... almost everything is priced at 100 ISK at some stations. Sometimes yor skills are maxed out, mostly not. Alright, thank you for the information.

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