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Topic |
Sonneillon |
Posted - 2005.08.02 15:32:00 - [ 1]
Since CCP bring this game to Chinajoy 05, more and more ppl start to concern, and of course there's millions of potential customer out there in chnia or other asia country. CCP gave out a lot of trial key on the Chinajoy 05,despite those china player who had already played for a long time, many many new player who joining EVE universe just couple weeks ago r quite confused, of course they like this game very much and CCP add chinese training corse which is appreciated. but, however most of them just could not get on hand even through few weeks of playing, coz the whole game is in english that not their 1st language. by reviewing the Chinajoy, many thinks that CCP will put put a server in asia for asia language speakers,but there arent any promise nor any evidence shows that will going that way. so,there is a big problem for them :play on current server and pay the monthly fee,but halfway someone say ,oh why shouldnt we put a server in China......quit to china server and just forgot about these big money and time spended here,or stay which surffering this language pain....... plz do some thing or say some thing, release a international chinese/asia language edition or just say u will give us a dedicated chinese game server.  |
Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency |
Posted - 2005.08.02 15:38:00 - [ 2]
I hope the chinese and other asian countries will join us on Tranquility. Besides a much larger playerbase, the language barrier is something that is actually fun, imho.
Why, when I was trapped by a Red Alliance gatecamp in N-RAEL a while back, I find it actually exciting to see those russian letters pop up in local, wondering what the hell they´re talking about (Could be anything from "I got the b*stard on scanner" to "Do you have that great recipe for cabbage soup for me?").
I love language barriers. Bring em! |
RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
E C L I P S E |
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:25:00 - [ 3]
i'm thinking they'll just let the china/asian players join in on the normal server cause well thats what eve is known for : no shards just 1 big server |
SpaceDrake Storyteller |
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:29:00 - [ 4]
They do need to provide a translated website, though, I think. Ditto for Russian players too, but whadyagonnado. |
Zaldiri
Caldari
Automated Industries
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Posted - 2005.08.02 16:30:00 - [ 5]
The other thing is... it would take at least 1 year before the New servers Economy/politics even approached the sofistication of tranquility. Tranquilty would always be the best server to play on... |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
MEK Enterprises
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:01:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 04/08/2005 13:03:12
English... adapt.
And the language barrier adds realism to the game. CCP isn't going to add a asian server unless the asian community could self fund itself ( possible if it gained momentum for even a small % of the population ). And if they did... I would want access to it with 3 more chars. |
Cyberstrike2027
Gallente
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion |
Posted - 2005.08.04 15:19:00 - [ 7]
*CCP trots off to NASA to buy a new server* |
Shalom Futzgorp |
Posted - 2005.08.04 15:27:00 - [ 8]
I'm all for segregating people who cannot read the EULA onto a separate server. Bye, bye lag. |
theRaptor
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2005.08.04 15:46:00 - [ 9]
 Originally by: Shalom Futzgorp
I'm all for segregating people who cannot read the EULA onto a separate server. Bye, bye lag.
Thats about 90% of the current player base. |
Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency |
Posted - 2005.08.04 15:49:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: theRaptor
Thats about 90% of the current player base.
There´s a difference between unwilling and unable. I´m unwilling, they´re unable  But I suspect that CCP will translate it for them. Along with the rest of the game. Didn´t I see a call for people who speak certain languages from CCP somewhere? Russian, japanese, chinese etc? |
theRaptor
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2005.08.04 15:58:00 - [ 11]
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The Enslaver
Viziam
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Posted - 2005.08.04 18:31:00 - [ 12]
EVE will die if it is sharded.
I find it very hard to believe that the Dev's would even contemplate it tbh. |
Shalom Futzgorp |
Posted - 2005.08.04 20:31:00 - [ 13]
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.08.05 08:32:00 - [ 14]
The more players on TQ the better imho. Lets look at the reality of that tho. Expanded player base = more server load. So CCP will have to invest in infrastructure some way or the other. If they don't (as I hope they won't) make a separate Asian shard, then they will still need to invest in improving the existing TQ server to cope. The second option is probably cheaper to them as well than duplicating hardware, administation teams and what not. |
Lyra VX
Pretty Riders |
Posted - 2005.08.05 11:57:00 - [ 15]
I'm continually amazed at the people who want to change Eve for a minority's benefit at the expense of the rest of the playerbase.
A Chinese language client would be a good idea, but a totally separate server for Asia? Why on earth would that be sensible? Instead of keeping up Eve's somewhat legendary single-shard model with even more players, it'd bring about two game worlds of a much smaller size. |
Ksixiaoriben |
Posted - 2005.08.06 13:42:00 - [ 16]
I'm a player of an EVE Chinese guild, we wish EVE can be a whole galaxy forever.
If new server in china will be true, so We wish that can be a part of the Currently EVE galaxy.
The problem is only the payment, How much is the fit for Chinese players.
I can give you an advice about this maybe.
4$~5$ is the 7% of Chinese monthly salary ,this is a fit level what can be accepted for many Chinese players(Great land of Chinese).
And you need make some specialy EVE payment codes for the especialy region(use IP).
PS: If use international payment price , so I think Use about 20% money to play a game ,That's too difficutly to work. |
Joel Pilkington
Gallente |
Posted - 2005.08.06 14:53:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Ksixiaoriben
I'm a player of an EVE Chinese guild, we wish EVE can be a whole galaxy forever.
If new server in china will be true, so We wish that can be a part of the Currently EVE galaxy.
The problem is only the payment, How much is the fit for Chinese players.
I can give you an advice about this maybe.
4$~5$ is the 7% of Chinese monthly salary ,this is a fit level what can be accepted for many Chinese players(Great land of Chinese).
And you need make some specialy EVE payment codes for the especialy region(use IP).
PS: If use international payment price , so I think Use about 20% money to play a game ,That's too difficutly to work.
The communist discount? You must be joking. That'll be € 14.95, thank you, come again. Reality check: US players already pay less thanks to a weak dollar and as long as the yuan is linked to the dollar, all of China (well, all of China with access to the internet and I suppose only as long as nobody plays a Gallente because, you know, the whole democarcy and free speech thing, tsktsktsk) would still get to play EVE for less. And it wouldn't be the same game anymore for the rest of us so yeah, do I look forward to opening the Chinese market for EVE... |
Jacques Archambault
ISD YARR
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Posted - 2006.01.14 13:12:00 - [ 18]
Removed the posts containing Chinese language characters - please only post in english on the EVE-Online forums please, otherwise we don't know what you guys are writing.  Jacques' |
Fester Addams
Minmatar |
Posted - 2006.01.15 15:26:00 - [ 19]
As far as I know the only reason CCP would give china its own shard is because of Chinas internet laws.
Aparently thise laws have or are about to change so there may actually not be a need for a chineese shard.
Personally I would like for CCP to expand the number of systems, especially empire systems and opening upp a chinese shard that at a later date gets connected to tranq would be a great way to introduce such an expansion. |
MrCjEvans
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc |
Posted - 2006.01.15 18:11:00 - [ 20]
no need to worry really, when ever came out they prided it on the fact tht it was one big world and dnt worry it will stay like that :>) |
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.01.15 19:31:00 - [ 21]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 15/01/2006 19:35:06 Originally by: Zaldiri
The other thing is... it would take at least 1 year before the New servers Economy/politics even approached the sofistication of tranquility. Tranquilty would always be the best server to play on...
Actually theyre expecting several hundredthousand subscribers in China afaik, so that server would have to be a lot more powerful then ours The reasons for the seperate server is simply: - Certain Eve content violates Chinese laws. (The Democratic Gallente Federation would be my guess) - China's great firewall apparently makes connecting to HQ quite hard. - CCP has to enforce a max time played limitations on chinese players, ie only 2 hours per day and then you get disconnected and banned until downtime, do you want this on tq?  Think that covers it. |
Godagast Moonbane
Caldari
Doomheim |
Posted - 2006.01.16 00:21:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Godagast Moonbane on 16/01/2006 00:22:59
Jacques, you are hereby charged with thread necromancy. That thing had been dead since August!
Anyway, the last reply before mine covers it very well. I'm as much against the idea of EVE being sharded as the next guy, but China is indeed a special case. Not only because we are talking about potentially hundred-thousands of subscribers, and a huge language barrier (I've been to China numerous times, I know what I'm talking about). But also, and indeed primarily, because of their pig-headed internet laws. And when CCP come to a point where they would have to self-censor their content, not only for the Chinese, but also for the "free world", then I think it really is better to have a seperate Chinese server altogether.
It's a pity for the Chinese players, who might be an interesting addition to the community, but as long as their government has such an autocratic approach to the internet, I'm afraid there is nothing else that can be done. |
Freyer
Killer Koalas
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2006.01.16 07:28:00 - [ 23]
CCP have made an announcement saying they will make a second server for Chinese players called Serenity.
They had 2 reasons for doing it. 1 there are now Laws restricting how long people can play MMO's for in china.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4183340.stm
The second reason was the Language barrier. im still looking for the forum post i will put a link up in this post as soon as i find it.
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Phnix Li
Caldari |
Posted - 2006.01.16 10:27:00 - [ 24]
As a chinese,I agree put a server in asia because i knowe what best for mostly chinese player.But i still wait at iceland server,because my friends at here. |
theRaptor
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:24:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
- China's great firewall apparently makes connecting to HQ quite hard.
From what I know this isn't an issue. The issue was that most cities don't have a decent enough overseas link to sustain the amount of subscribers CCP is predicting. |
DHU InMe
Gallente
JUSTICE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.01.16 18:01:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
- China's great firewall apparently makes connecting to HQ quite hard.
From what I know this isn't an issue. The issue was that most cities don't have a decent enough overseas link to sustain the amount of subscribers CCP is predicting.
Plus: -language barrier -Plus adding 5-10k players in 3 month would be insane curently. -Chiness governement protectionist law... |
Moreyes
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.01.17 01:48:00 - [ 27]
First of all, I m a Chinese, who do love this game, although I m still a trial player. I really wanna join you guys into this amazing galaxy on TQ. However, I 'd like to show you guys why I feel so happy when I heard of that a Chinese server will be set in China. Two reasons as following: 1) PAYMENT ---- till now I could not find a better way to pay for the fee of playing on TQ. If I m wrong plz let me know. 2) LAG ---- which almost kill me every time I select command. it does depress me too much  Yes, I love language barrier as well, which makes me feel I m living in a real galaxy. If there is a stargate that could warp my payment and internet data to TQ, I will feel very exciting to join you all.  Plz Show me that CCP |
Night Doc
Majesta Empire |
Posted - 2006.01.17 13:13:00 - [ 28]
One sharded game does not mean one server |
fsk007 |
Posted - 2006.01.24 11:24:00 - [ 29]
Hello, I am one China play the family, actually we also very hope only keeps this unifies EVE the world. Does not hope China alone opens the server, but after all English is not our mother tongue, in the game, we has the massive languages barrier. EVE is the good game, after hopes China opens didn't must exist outside what hangs and so on, did not must have proxy practices level company exists. Sorry, my English is not specially good, therefore said possibly is not very understands, finally, hopes EVE is even better!    |
Mc oldwpolf |
Posted - 2006.01.26 01:56:00 - [ 30]
the single world while separating game data on servers all over the world and sync with less delay, dream? reality? distributing computing? All the human has the only one real universe.I hate some people getting an virtual universe while others getting the other,though I am from China. |
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there will ba a server for Asia ? or language package will be the best