Posted - 2005.08.21 04:24:00 - [2]

 

General tips to avoid gankage:

1) After you attack someone in a .1 to .4 there is a 15 minutes timer where sentries at gates or stations will fire on you. During this timer, continue scanning belts for additional targets or simply sit in a safespot.
2) Don't enter high sec space one your security status gets messed up. A general guide from eve-o.

Players with -1.5 or greater can enter all systems

Players with -2.0 or worse cannot enter 1.0 systems

Players with -2.5 or worse cannot enter 0.9 systems

Players with -3.0 or worse cannot enter 0.8 systems

Players with -3.5 or worse cannot enter 0.7 systems

Players with -4.0 or worse cannot enter 0.6 systems

Players with -4.5 or worse cannot enter 0.5 systems

Once your security status reaches -5 you are considered an outlaw and can be attacked by players anywhere without CONCORD intervention.
3) Try to pirate in groups. This has 2 major advantages, you can take on tougher opponents and you are more likely to be able to beat whoever might come after you etc. One thing to keep in mind is that if someone attacks you at a gate and you are below -5 only you can retaliate, anyone else, whether in your gang or corp will get fired on by sentries.

Recommended ships/setups:

Almost any ship can be used to great success. Its a good idea to have a heavy tank, this allows you to survive more situations and possibly go through sentries when flagged for attacking someone. Obviously, you'll need at least on scrambler, a webifier is also another good idea. Battleships don't work so well for piracy, they are slow and locking is much more difficult. Also, ganksquads are more likely to see battleships as "worthwhile." In other words if you're in a megathron, someone is more likely to come after you wtih 10 guys and sit in the system for half an hour. People will still do this on smaller ships, don't ask me why, so be careful anyway. Also, rewards in piracy are rare. While you may get a 40 mil ransom, or kill a covetor with strip miner IIs, its not going to happen every day, every week or even every month. Because the money comes in sparse intervals if at all, its a good idea to fly a ship you can afford to lose several times over. Never pirate in a ship you can't afford to lose.

If your ship setup calls for an mwd, its a good idea to carry around an afterburner just in case you see nice targets in a complex.

Behavior:

This is more important then you can possibly imagine. The only thing more important to a pirate then his ship is his reputation. If you want to receive ransoms you need people to trust you or better yet, like you. Always be nice and never smack. If someone asks for advice, give it. Never use warp stabs, if you are afraid to lose your ship, don't pirate in it and buy a cheaper ship. Its pathetic and it shows people that you plan to lose battles. Frankly, if you get killed with them on when you initiated combat, it should be flat out embarassing. Warp stabs belong on haulers and miners, NOT pirate ships. NEVER kill after a ransom, when you do that you hurt yourself, your corp and pirates as a whole.

Why I wrote this guide:

I'm really tired of these smacktards going around calling themselve pirates giving us all a bad name. Also, I think people need some sort of instruction to get anywhere in piracy and I'd like to see more people trying it.

Last words:

Learn to use the scanner, its your best friend.
Thanks to the guys at snigg for teaching me most of this stuff
YARRRRR!1!111!!!!1

Posted - 2005.08.21 04:47:00 - [4]

 

Well I haven't tried it out yet (nor have I the money or time right now but it gives me more info than I've seen before on one page. The title Comprehensive Guide helped draw me more than "How to pirate" or "Want to be a pirate?"

So yes, this is a good guide; pod ransoming has many advantages that I didn't know about. Very informative.

Posted - 2005.08.21 10:59:00 - [6]

 

bump cause it's a really good post

Posted - 2005.08.21 15:39:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Keta Min

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nice guide, i have one thing to add though:
if you follow those rules of behavior you might make too many friends while pirating (yes it's true) and it will reduce the amount of your potential targets.

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You can be respectful without making friends. The best thing to do is to only offer +10 status to people who pay large sums of money and other pirate corps in the area you like. I shoot everyone else when possible, including most former corpmembers. I've had long conversations with guys in local or private chat and killed them many more times, so friendship doesn't neccesarily prevent you from attacking them.
Plus, repeat victims and people who know you are far more likely to trust you for ransoming.

Also, anyone who is willing to become friends with you after you pirated them probably enjoyed the experience. I can't tell you how many times people have been like "thats the most fun I've ever had in this game." Thats part of why I pirate, to introduce new players to the joys and pitfalls of pvp. And some old players that have been in a 1.0 for years.

Posted - 2005.08.21 22:04:00 - [10]

 

Originally by: Phlegm

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Question for you. If you say you use cheap ships what do you mean by that? Is it typically cruisers/bc? While not necessarily ready to pirate myself, I am interested in some conflict.

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Yes, t1 cruisers and bc, or t2 frigs.

Posted - 2005.12.19 01:10:00 - [14]

 

After you initiate combat with someone in higher sec system (0.5 in this case), how long until Concord won't shoot at me? They already destroyed 1 ship (plus an Ibis which doesn't really count), and the criminal timer thingy has run down but they still shoot at me when I undock.

Posted - 2005.12.19 12:25:00 - [16]

 

Edited by: Walok on 19/12/2005 12:28:40
Very nice article, though I do disagree on a few points most notably the warp core stabs section.

Originally by: upsideup

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Never use warp stabs, if you are afraid to lose your ship, don't pirate in it and buy a cheaper ship.

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Why shouldn't we be afraid of losing ships? Ships can cost a lot of money and even if I can replace it, doesn't mean I should treat it as dispensable. For the price of fitting a stab on and being able to keep my ship, I think they're a bargain.

Originally by: upsideup

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Its pathetic and it shows people that you plan to lose battles.

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I do plan on losing battles. I'm not arrogant enough to assume that I'll win all my fights. Sorry, pirating isn't about comparing e-*****es for everyone, so don't call anyone that disagrees with you pathetic. For some of us pirating is about making ISK. If I can see I'm going to lose a fight and I'm scrammed, I honestly don't care if it's the 'noble' thing to stay and fight. Having a stab is going to save me several million of the exact thing I came for, and as a business decision my wallet wants me to take a stab into the fight to give me that fall-back option, cowardly or not.

Originally by: upsideup

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Frankly, if you get killed with them on when you initiated combat, it should be flat out embarassing.

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Why? I initiate plenty of combat that I end up running from; I don't find it embarassing at all. I'm merely testing the waters.

In my eyes, the whole stab debate comes down to whether you want to be rational about your goals in pirating, or treat it as an ego trip. Maybe you should reconsider one of your opening lines.

Originally by: upsideup

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We all know what piracy is, destroying of ships for profit. If you do it for fun, thats greifing and a whole different scenario.

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Keep it Yar

Posted - 2005.12.19 23:05:00 - [18]

 

I think the whole ransom thing needs putting into perspective

Pirates are under absolutely no obligation what so ever to ransom anything or anyone. Piracy is about taking stuff for free, profiting from others and thats about it. To do so you blow their ships up and take what you want. If you think you'll profit more by ransoming then this is another option. If you chose to blow them up and pod them without any kind of comunication that is your perogative, or as your new victim is 1 1/2 years old you may decide that his implants are worth a tidy some to him and you.

Because of various posts on ransoming; New pirates and victims alike seem to believe that a ransom is a given. This is to the extent that I've heard stories of pirates trying to ransom ships that were too powerful for them and they got themselves killed. On the flip side I've seen many statements from victims along the lines of "you are a griefer you didn't even ransom me...you just blew me up blah blah blah".

So lets set the record straight. Pirates blow up your ship to take your stuff, if they feel like it they may ransom your ship but they lose the thrill of the explosion and the Xmas like suprise of looking inside your can and finding goodies or the halarity of discovering your shocking setup. They also may pod you..yes without question or ransom. They may not want some guy screaming in local alerting all the other potential targets of his presence, they may simple like the squelching sound of your pod exploading or they may feel that as a 1 week old noob you wont have implants and just aren't worth the effort.

The one thing I do agree with is that if you've asked for a ransom for a pod or ship and recieved the money without interference then you most definately should let them go.

Posted - 2005.12.20 02:12:00 - [20]

 

This guide is pretty much useless. More sniggy trying to pretend they r the best at what they do. This guide reflcts ur skill. plz write better guides plz?

Posted - 2006.03.08 12:32:00 - [22]

 

Edited by: Zarinalis on 08/03/2006 12:32:52
Thanks for writing this guide it has given me some really usefull tips that I am sure will help me should I decide to go pirating.

Why is it there always has to be somone like Rellik who just flames for the sake of it? If you disagree with somone say why and then say what you think would be better advice. The fact of the matter is that the 1 and only post on this thread that is really useless is yours!

Posted - 2006.04.04 22:47:00 - [24]

 

Edited by: Insane Asylum on 04/04/2006 22:47:43
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Posted - 2006.04.05 05:34:00 - [26]

 

Ok, the stab thing.
Ffs, provide some logic behind it.
"If you have to fit stabs you shouldnt be pirating in it"
It's a step one step three logic process, ie "step one, fit stabs. step two......... step three you shouldnt be using your ship like that."

If i'm in danger of becoming warp scrambled, i'm getting my shiney expensive useful expensive hard to find expensive ship out of there as fast as i can.

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I dont fit stabs btw, not enough slots :P

Posted - 2006.05.03 06:59:00 - [28]

 

Originally by: carbheat

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Hmm,

I am not sure all of your corp sniggerdly, and especially you CEO hold the same values.

This weekend there were sniggerdly "gank squads" sitting at the gates in Aunenen, I was unlucky to get ganked twice, both times it went like this:

Target lock, no message no ransom, BOOM, no ship, Boom clone time.

One of the pod kills was performed by your CEO, this is not honerable piracy its griefing at its worst. I would not mind, but each time I was in a low level ship with no cargo, so the gain was vey low, in fact the second time I was in a noob reaper with noob weapons and no cargo.

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Oh please, it's simple gate piracy. Shoot everything you can and sift through all the wreakage later. A noob ship could be an alt running BPCs for all the sniper knows (yes, it has even happened where a shuttle got popped and dropped a T2 BPO). They can't scan you at the gate because it takes too long and they need to stay out of sentry range.

Gate piracy is piracy of the lowest form but it is not griefing. Griefing is a bannable offence and is clearly defined in the EULA.

That aside your post reminds me of the time I was riding point for a massive convoy through Aunenen. That took some doing but we got everything through and back with my Cheetah and a lot of patience. Some Snigg pilot left a can by one of the gates marked "Welcome to Pwnenen" which cracked me up. On a day with over 80 pod kills in that system and a whole mess of corpses by the gate it was very appropriate.

No, I don't know why anyone would sit in a pod by a gate long enough for a sniper BS to lock onto them.

Posted - 2006.05.03 07:36:00 - [30]

 

Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi

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Ok, the stab thing.
Ffs, provide some logic behind it.
"If you have to fit stabs you shouldnt be pirating in it"
It's a step one step three logic process, ie "step one, fit stabs. step two......... step three you shouldnt be using your ship like that."

If i'm in danger of becoming warp scrambled, i'm getting my shiney expensive useful expensive hard to find expensive ship out of there as fast as i can.

</rant>

I dont fit stabs btw, not enough slots :P

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i don't stab, because thats not how i want to play. I'd rather go down with the ship and have the adrenaline rush of every fight having the risk of death than lose half as many ships but have little risk.
I understand that a lot of people do want to stab, and i guess its their choice. Personally, i think you should fight or run, don't try both, but i wouldn't tell another person they have to play like me.