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Topic |
Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto. |
Posted - 2006.11.29 19:56:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Ryas Nia on 29/11/2006 21:22:12Contracts are the new replacement to escrow and courier missions. This guide will start you in learning how to make, use, buy, sell, trade.... using the new system. To setup more than one public contract you need the Contracts skill. This skill will let you create 3 contracts per level. LinkageCreating a new contractOpen your contracts window and click on create new contract. You should get a screen that looks like this. You will need to decide what type of contract you want to create. LinkageAuction: lets you auction items with a starting bid, buy out, for up to 1 week. Item Exchange: lets you sell items for isk, or trade items for other items as well as isk. Courier: lets you pay other players to move good for you from one place to another. Loan: lets you setup a lone to a specific player or corp. Free form: Came up with one example of a freeform contract, hope you find more. Decide your availability. Public makes it open to anyone in the game, Loans cannot be made public as far as i can tell. Private allows you to restrict your contract to a player or corp. My corp and My alliance restrict your contracts to your corporation or alliance. If you have the contracts role for your corp you can issue the contract on behalf of your corporation buy checking the last box. Setting up an Auction:Select an Auction and availability. Select an item you want to auction LinkageSet the starting bid (optional) and the buyout (optional), Set how long you want the auction to run, and then give it a help full description. LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. Linkage
Setting up a Sell order:Select Item Exchange, and the availability. Select an Item you want to sell. LinkageEnter in an amount of ISK you want to receive for the item, set the amount of time the contract will be open, and give it a help full description LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. LinkageSetting up a Trade:Select Item Exchange, and the availability. Select an Item you want to trade. LinkageEnter in an amout of ISK yoru willing to pay or receive for your item. Type in the name of the item your looking to trade for and find it on the list. Add it to your items by clicking add item. Linkage LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. Linkage |
Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto. |
Posted - 2006.11.29 19:57:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: Ryas Nia on 29/11/2006 21:10:00Setting up a buy order:Select Item Exchange, and the availability. Do not select any item. Enter in an amount of ISK yoru willing to pay for your item. Type in the name of the item your looking to trade for and find it on the list. Enter a quantity, and add it to your items by clicking add item. LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. LinkageSetting up a Courier contract:Select Courier , and the availability. Select an Item(s) you want to moved. Enter the destination of the item. Enter a reward for the service, as well as the value of the item(s) as collateral. Enter an expiration and number of days to complete the mission. Add in a help full description and hit next. LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. Linkage
Setting up a Loan:Select Loan, and enter in a name, your corp, or alliance. LinkageSelect an item if it will be loaned out. (note remove charges from ships if your loaning ships) Enter in a price for the loan, Collateral if required (a good idea for ships), any amount of ISK that you are including. Enter an expiration for claiming the loan, and a period of time in which the loan must be repaid or items returned. Give it a help full description and hit next. LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. LinkageCreating a Merc Contract using FreeformSelect Freefrom, and the person, corp, or alliance you want the contract to go to. LinkageEnter in a description of the contract. LinkageEnter in a reward, collateral if needed, expiration on accepting the contract, and time to complete the contract. LinkageReview the terms of the contract make sure you did not screw anything up and then click Finish. Linkage |
Jim McGregor |
Posted - 2006.11.29 19:57:00 - [ 3]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 20:01:48Nice work. Linking to this guide in the Guide Collection now. :) |
Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto. |
Posted - 2006.11.29 19:57:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Ryas Nia on 29/11/2006 21:21:17How to search for an item in contractsSelect your range for contracts, station, system, region, different region (enter the one you want), issued to me, my corp, my alliance. Select a type of contract you want to see (default is all) If desired enter a price range or click only affordable. Linkage Now Click the show more options arrow if your looking for something specific. LinkageFilter by who issued it, did not issue it, the title, and most importantly the item! Enter in the item your looking for, if you don't know the full name you can pick it from the list that is close to what you have typed. LinkageOnce you have selected the item your looking for the results will be returned for the range your looking. Linkage |
Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:00:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Mysticaa on 29/11/2006 20:05:20
Things to note...
Auctions are only available for items starting at 1mil isk and up.
Loans and Freeform are only available for corp or alliance (no public)
Item trades can be for as long as 2 weeks |
Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:01:00 - [ 6]
your signature doesnt seem to work though.. and you use lousy jpg :-> |
Hung Odonkey
Gallente |
Posted - 2006.11.29 20:33:00 - [ 7]
Why are loans only open to corpmates or alliances?? Heck I should think that loans in particular would be better to be fully accessible than to be kept within people you know. Does a bank necessarily discriminate between members and non-members? No its open to everyone! So why are loans so restrictive?? |
Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:41:00 - [ 8]
Loans must be between players(i.e. private), corps, or alliances. Therefore they can not be public. Or else we would have a hoard of please loan me 65bil isk contracts. |
Nicocat
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:07:00 - [ 9]
What happens if you don't repay a loan, and don't have money to pay back the loanshark in the Hurricane? |
Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto. |
Posted - 2006.11.29 21:23:00 - [ 10]
well i think that covers it for now... if im missing anything let me know and i will update it more. |
Kylania
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
Sylph Alliance |
Posted - 2006.12.02 18:39:00 - [ 11]
Up you go! Great guide, thanks!  |
Gnotta Knewbi |
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:08:00 - [ 12]
 Originally by: Nicocat
What happens if you don't repay a loan, and don't have money to pay back the loanshark in the Hurricane?
Then the loanshark keeps your collateral. If the loanshark didn't put any collateral, then you're off scot free... With regard to Freeform contracts, is the payment subject to the approval of the contract creator to determine whether the other party fulfilled their end of the contract? Or is it automatic? Either way, I can see possiblities for abuse, there. |
Marine HK4861
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2006.12.03 07:39:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Gnotta Knewbi
With regard to Freeform contracts, is the payment subject to the approval of the contract creator to determine whether the other party fulfilled their end of the contract? Or is it automatic? Either way, I can see possiblities for abuse, there.
Which is why freeform is only available to corp and alliance, people you're supposed to be able to trust more. |
nomistseb
Gallente
Domination.
THE KLINGONS |
Posted - 2006.12.04 22:32:00 - [ 14]
can we use contracts to transfer item to a corp member incase you are online different systems or different times i had a buddy move some stuff for me and he put on contract for me. I am in the right stn system etc and cant find it. Can someone pls tell me how to do this or what system to use. We are in different corps and alliance help pls |
TTIGER
LaiDai Research Services |
Posted - 2006.12.11 17:54:00 - [ 15]
Edited by: TTIGER on 11/12/2006 18:09:33This thread should been stickied for more time ,i was lucky i bookmarked. Im also curious with new courier contracts ,i wanted create one but it looks like 120k is limit you can have for a contract.more info will be proceed if you want create for multi millions m3 to a person. And related to nomistseb's question how can you put a private contract to someone non-corp alliance member (like forum auctions )it looks like a pain now No reserve for auctions ?  |
Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.11 18:10:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: TTIGER
This thread should been stickied for more time
This and all the other guides that were previously stickied in this forum (plus a few good ones from some of the other channels) are now found in the Ultimate New Player Guide Collection. This change was made by the forum mods to reduce the number of skickies in this forum. Originally by: TTIGER
i was lucky i bookmarked.
Im also curious with new courier contracts ,i wanted create one but it looks like 120k is limit you can have for a contract.more info will be proceed if you want create for multi millions m3 to a person.
120k m3 is the size of a Frieght Container. Those can only be carried in Freighters. Even with perfect skills there is no ship that can carry a million m3. Such a courier mission would be impossible to complete. 120k m3 is a significant improvement over the previous 20k m3 limit of courier missions. If you need to move such large volumes you can use multiple courier contracts or use a pair of item exchange contracts. Originally by: TTIGER
And related to nomistseb's question how can you put a private contract to someone non-corp alliance member (like forum auctions )it looks like a pain now
Just like before, you limit the contract to them by name on the first page of the contract create wizard. |
TTIGER
LaiDai Research Services |
Posted - 2006.12.11 18:23:00 - [ 17]
i need nearly 2m m3 have to be hauled  ,I was expecting something creative like a freighter cargohold in 1 contract Originally by: Matalino
If you need to move such large volumes you can use multiple courier contracts or use a pair of item exchange contracts.
Originally by: Matalino
Just like before, you limit the contract to them by name on the first page of the contract create wizard.
Simply doesnot work, i would not ask if it worked |
Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.11 18:30:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Matalino
Just like before, you limit the contract to them by name on the first page of the contract create wizard.
Simply doesnot work, i would not ask if it worked
I am not able to log in to the game right now, but when I get home from work I have to transfer some goods between my characters using contracts, so I will let you know what I find out. |
Fedacorr
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.11 18:58:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: Fedacorr on 11/12/2006 19:08:17
Contract Scammer Warning!
oop, sorry, error in posting, see below for actual post. Doesn't let me delete the false post. |
Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.11 19:04:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Fedacorr
Contract Scammer Warning!
And what specificly is your warning?  Please edit in specific details. |
Fedacorr
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.11 19:07:00 - [ 21]
Contract Scammer Warning!
There are a lot of deceptive sales contracts out there right now. Mostly, these will offer a description of some raw material and a quantity, for many millions of ISK. Be aware that the description in the 'ad' for a contract, and the description line in the contract itself, say whatever the contract creator wants them to say, they're NOT guaranteed to match what the contract is actually selling!
To determine what a contract is really offering to sell you, use the 'read contract' option, and go down to the very bottom of the contract.
There, you will see a real, guaranteed entry of what you get if you buy the contract.
It is in the form of 'icon of item', item name, and, IF it is selling more than one, 'x quantity'. If 'x quantity' is not present, it's selling ONE.
So, for Nocxium, for instance, if you see "[Icon of Nocxium] Nocxium x 15000", you will recieve 15000 Nocxium. If you see "[Icon of Nocxium] Nocxium", you will get ONE Nocxium, and that's all.
Remember, the 'description' line up above in the contract is whatever the contract creator types, so it can say anything. They can, and do, type 'Nocxium x 15000' there, and still be selling only ONE.
Caveat Emptor. Never, never EVER buy a contract without reading and checking the actual contract text this way! |
Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:30:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: TTIGER
Originally by: Matalino
Just like before, you limit the contract to them by name on the first page of the contract create wizard.
Simply doesnot work, i would not ask if it worked
Okay, I think I figured out why everyone seems to be having problems using this. (I hope) When I created a private contract for my alt it was not searchable in the public contract section: IE by selecting the region/system where the contract was created. What I needed to do was select "Me" under that "View" pop down, then it listed the available contracts private contracts to me, regardless of their location. See if that helps in working your contracts. |
Cubus
Caldari |
Posted - 2007.01.28 13:31:00 - [ 23]
What happens if you set up a loan of just money?
Is it possible (can't play the game atm) and what happens at the end of the contract, as setting up collateral with a money loan isn't doable (people would have to hand in money to get (more) money)? |
Palmela Handersons |
Posted - 2007.02.09 04:42:00 - [ 24]
Can I clear old contracts from my ingame player info. I dont need everyone seeing my dealings |
Klikiss
Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.03.01 15:25:00 - [ 25]
It'd be nice eventually for a collateral+cash loan system, where someone can, for example, pledge a 200M ship as collateral to borrow 100M ISK from someone. At deadline, the 100M + whatever interest or fee is paid back, or the ship is released from escrow and giver to the lender. |
AvatarADV |
Posted - 2007.03.01 18:01:00 - [ 26]
It's my understanding that you -can't- remove your past contracts - they're public information. Not important for stuff you bought/sold, really, but it's virtually the entire point of doing a "freeform" contract. |
Beldenrek |
Posted - 2007.03.11 01:55:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Palmela Handersons
Can I clear old contracts from my ingame player info. I dont need everyone seeing my dealings
This feature is pretty vital for Courier contracts. Gives you an idea if the poster of the contracts is a good judge of risk/reward. Without it, scam artists would make a mint. |
Kahor
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate |
Posted - 2007.04.06 20:38:00 - [ 28]
Edited by: Kahor on 07/04/2007 08:22:13
What I want to know is : If I setup a Want to buy contract, can people fill the contract from item all over the region or do the item need to be at the station ?
Edit : And can people fill buy orders from other regions as well, if my order is in another region than where they are but they still have the modules required in same region/station. |
Kahor
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate |
Posted - 2007.04.09 09:22:00 - [ 29]
Anyone knows ? |
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