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 Malachon Draco eXceeded
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:25:00 - [ 691]
And the playing the victim, which is what BoB is doing here 'ooh, everybody hates us cause we're the best' is really transparent as well.
Almost everybody hated RA a while back, yet funnily enough noone ever accused them of being Developers, even though they got away with some illegal stuff according to some.
Why of all the accusations, does this one always come back to BoB and noone else? Never saw anyone accuse Burn Eden of being developers, did you? Universally hated, but no accusations of being developers. Only BoB...
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 B4NK |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:26:00 - [ 692]
The accounts havent been deleted and the characters STILL exist on TQ.
as to 5 char's being named if you look closely then its all 1 player.
regardless of the BPO issue its the second KNOWN problem with a Dev and for me personally im ashamed of the game.
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 Berious GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:27:00 - [ 693]
Originally by: Cabadrin
Originally by: Prydeless Im assuming that putting this in 'eve information portal' instead of the COAD forum (where the first thread was) was also an attempt to sweep this under the carpet i.e. Im betting if this moved to the COAD forums there would be twice the amount of posts...
Certainly 23 pages is sweeping it under the carpet!
Yeah but this forum has probably seen a month's worth of traffic today. |
 Kldraina |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:27:00 - [ 694]
Edited by: Kldraina on 07/02/2007 22:24:15I think it is sad how many seem to think the devs shouldn't be playing EVE. If they don't play the game, how can they know what in it is good, and what is bad? I know from experience, that the only way to understand EVE is to play it, and the devs must understand EVE in order to make informed, intelligent decisions about it's design. P.S. I wonder how much of this public smearing of CCP is actually an attempt to coerce CCP into taking action against BoB. Conspiracies can go both ways ya'know.  |
 Virtuozzo The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:28:00 - [ 695]
Originally by: Cabadrin
Originally by: Prydeless Im assuming that putting this in 'eve information portal' instead of the COAD forum (where the first thread was) was also an attempt to sweep this under the carpet i.e. Im betting if this moved to the COAD forums there would be twice the amount of posts...
Certainly 23 pages is sweeping it under the carpet!
Lol, let's keep it at 23 :P With the amount of crap postings deleted it should be possible to keep it under control. |
 Jacob Majestic GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:31:00 - [ 696]
Edited by: Jacob Majestic on 07/02/2007 22:28:32 Originally by: Galea Wildfang - DB Preacher There hasn't been any evidence of him buying a character for out of game currencies or any other violation of the EULA
- SirMolle Has violated the EULA by posting RL Information about another gamer. He edited his post short after to remove said information. This will result in a temporary ban. Any further posting of RL informations about another player will result in permanent bans, not only for SirMolle
- Kugu..... Gets his accounts permanently banned for releasing RL informations of a CCP employee.
The only problem with making a list of people to ban is that the EULA is quite nebulous. For example, the EULA is not a legal document, it is an EULA violation to "break laws," whatever that means. As another example, if the allegations are true that t20 directly oversaw RKK's capital operations, he would be privy to intimate knowledge of massive account sharing. Take a second and study the EULA. I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find a way to get banned. This makes it even more important that we be able to trust that CCP devs and GMs will adjucate the rules fairly. For example, when you petition you trust that the GMs that read your petition will decide your petition in a clear and consistent manner. Kieron's lack of transparency makes me wonder if CCP's culture is changing for the worse. -dbp *edit* Not enough carriage returns. |
 Virtuozzo The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:33:00 - [ 697]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Never saw anyone accuse Burn Eden of being developers
..... You really have to stop doing that Malachon, I need to keep breathing ... :P |
 Rodney Caston The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:34:00 - [ 698]
Edited by: Rodney Caston on 07/02/2007 22:32:39 Originally by: BlackTalon is it good idea to have dev playing at all they should just be testing stuff on the test server
With that statement alone, I can only assume you've never worked in a Dev/QA/Production environment. |
 Tanis Bastar Caldari Interstitial Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:37:00 - [ 699]
How does deleting the dev characters help in the slightest?
In one of the posts by the dev player quoted in Mr. K's blog, the dev says that even though he's got to pull his character out of RKK, he'll still be on MSN, IRC and the Forums, and that he is "still RKK," just "a bit inactive atm".
CCP's response is a total joke--what rules do they have in place to ensure that favoritism doesn't continue with their new characters?
When this whole issue started I doubted that any actual impropriety had occurred, but CCP has thoroughly botched the announcement about the results of their investigation. They haven't bothered to deny key allegations, have given us platitudes and generalities, and try to make us feel guilty that devs had their characters deleted. BooHoo!
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 Malachon Draco eXceeded
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:37:00 - [ 700]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Never saw anyone accuse Burn Eden of being developers
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You really have to stop doing that Malachon, I need to keep breathing ...
:P
Stop following me! I know you're nervous cause I am getting close to the number of alts you have, but thats no reason for stalking  |
 Virtuozzo The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:38:00 - [ 701]
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 Rodney Caston The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:40:00 - [ 702]
Originally by: Malachon Draco In other news, after careful investigation, the Guiding Hand Social Club concluded that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club was guilty of any wrongdoing.
oh, I see what you did there ... |
 Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:41:00 - [ 703]
Originally by: Borasao At this point, with CCP's behaviour up until now, I don't think anyone would believe them, even if it were true.
Most of the people posting in this thread wouldn't believe anything CCP say, no matter what their behaviour is or was. My worry is that the fury and recrimination will have a bad effect on EvE, driving good players away. And then if this turns out to be completely in the minds of the tinfoil hat brigade, a great game will have been ruined by people who like playing at conspiracy theories. Which will be a Bad Thing. |
 Zzleeper Amarr Dark.. Matter..Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:41:00 - [ 704]
Originally by: breadcat http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=75215
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=45646
more will follow 
yep.. mmorpg.com |
 Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:42:00 - [ 705]
Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means. |
 Milena Rage The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:43:00 - [ 706]
Edited by: Milena Rage on 07/02/2007 22:42:25 tee hee |
 Executor Shiro Casino EVE |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:45:00 - [ 707]
Originally by: Hectic Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means.
No more free Tech2 BPOs for you? |
 Virtuozzo The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:46:00 - [ 708]
Edited by: Virtuozzo on 07/02/2007 22:44:12 Originally by: Hectic Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means.
Yes. I for one do. And I am not one of the whiners or witchunting fans by a long shot. It is always sad to loose friends through both the actions, inactions and omissions from the few. |
 Jacob Majestic GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:46:00 - [ 709]
Originally by: Hectic Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means.
Is this a parody post? My sarcasm detector is broken. |
 Ilidanis |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:46:00 - [ 710]
Originally by: Hectic Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means.
Your 'friends' are not gone. His/their character(s) were simply renamed to something inconspicuous, until things blow over, at which point I'm sure someday down the line, you'll get a shiny new corp application from a relatively 'unknown', low-profile character. Look on the bright side: more T2 BPO donations! |
 Zzleeper Amarr Dark.. Matter..Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:47:00 - [ 711]
Originally by: Hectic Some of my friends are gone. I hope at least some of you whiners realize what that means.
Yeah, they cheated, serves them right too! |
 Cyberian Ragnos Minmatar Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:49:00 - [ 712]
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Originally by: Borasao At this point, with CCP's behaviour up until now, I don't think anyone would believe them, even if it were true.
Most of the people posting in this thread wouldn't believe anything CCP say, no matter what their behaviour is or was. My worry is that the fury and recrimination will have a bad effect on EvE, driving good players away. And then if this turns out to be completely in the minds of the tinfoil hat brigade, a great game will have been ruined by people who like playing at conspiracy theories. Which will be a Bad Thing.
We won't know this. Because they didn't say anything. What is bad for the community is lack of transparence in a payed game that demands a lot of dedication and therefore cannot be taken lightly when tampered. |
 Sadao Minmatar Evil Bastards |
Posted - 2007.02.07 22:51:00 - [ 713]
Originally by: j0sephine Just loads and loads of stuff
Dear j0sephine, I will always forgive you for the stuff you say, because you have the coolest sig on the whole of the eve-o forums. It is a sig of epic proportions. |
 CCP kieron

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Posted - 2007.02.07 23:01:00 - [ 714]
I am closing the thread to further discussion. It was my hope that the replies to the original statement would remain on topic, but due to the lack of clarity in that statement this was not the case.
To those that are saying, "CCP will sweep this under the rug and not offer further comment", you are incorrect. More information and answers will be posted before the start of the weekend.
In the interim, please do not open new threads about this topic. Members of the EVE community will have an opportunity to voice their opinions and comments shortly.
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