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Stranger Ranger
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:36:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Stranger Ranger on 05/07/2007 22:35:49
Edited by: Stranger Ranger on 05/07/2007 22:35:36
[QUOTE=Blitter]First off, rumors have been steadily growing about what has happened with the titan fund. We have not previously officially responded because we hoped to repair the situation. It is now beyond repair.

Remedial has stolen and presumably e-bay’d approximately half the Titan fund isk and we are unlikely to see it returned.

We feel we owe you a FULL timeline of events.

As all but the newest of you will know, back in April Rem was cut off by his parents and needed money to make rent. Considering the massive influence, leadership and time Remedial had devoted to our community; the directorate had no qualms of backing Remedial in asking you the general membership for donations. Thanks to your generosity, he received $2,800.

His rent secure, Remedial then opened the Goonstore. This offered goonswarm branded quality merchandise for his personal profit.

As these events were occurring, due to the pressures of a wedding and law finals, Remedial was finding it harder and harder to spend more time online and more and more the direction of the swarm was being decided and implemented by the directorship, led by Mittani. In May Remedial formally handed leadership over to Mittani, whilst retaining illuminati access.

Slightly before his official resignation, Remedial created a titanfund character on his account to collect donations so that the swarm might produce our own titan. It took many weeks, but 70billion was donated, a testament to the commitment of the individuals in goonswarm. Ten billion of this was removed before the fund was complete to purchase initial minerals.

Soon after, Remedial began to push for goonswarm to become a multi-game organization. With our strong organization and sense of community, this had been a move suggested by several directors in the past, but had previously been rejected by Remedial.

Remedial initially argued that he should be allowed to run the multi-mmo goonswarm, offering to return to expand goonswarm. The senior directors blocked this move. It was worried that, given Remedial had quit (publically) three times and (to illuminati) several additional times previously, his dedication to goonswarm players was in question, and the directorship did not feel they had the time or energy to assume leadership of multiple games the next time Remedial had to quit.

Additionally, his about-face on the multi-mmo concept so close to the substantial profits he had generated so quickly through the goonstore made it possible that his intentions were to expand the goonswarm brand as primarily a money making asset. Whilst this is a cynical and perhaps unworthy thought, it would be naïve to ignore the appeal of easy tens of thousands of dollars to anyone, let alone to a newlywed.

Illuminati became rife with drama, Remedial replied to these allegations that he was not interested in profits but in the well-being and the entertainment of the swarm. Seeking compromise and assurance their worries were unfounded, the senior directors offered Remedial an equal say in the future direction of the swarm, without requiring any actual participation from him. Remedial’s charisma, drive and intuitions have always benefited and entertained goonswarm, and the directorate felt and will always feel somewhat in his debt and the idea of goonswarm branded merchandise is hardly in and of itself offensive or unwanted.

It was however insisted that an undertaking the size of a multi-mmo organization would entail a more diffuse leadership – for our organization, our commitment and most likely our sanity. Remedial replied:



Remedial is an emotional man, and we assumed that once his initial irritation has passed he would contact us again, perhaps to help the swarm in an active role, an advisory role or even just to hang out.



Orangir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:36:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Orangir on 07/07/2007 21:03:28
Furthermore,

Stranger Ranger
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:37:00 - [3]
 

We were mistaken.

After making that message Remedial largely disappeared from the online world.
He has ignored PMs regarding the Titan fund, despite continuing to monitor the site and read other PMs.
He has not answered or returned phone calls from multiple directors, many of whom considered him a personal friend. Some of whom donated part of the $2800. He even ignored those who had attended his wedding.
He has changed his passwords.

This week, we were reliably informed that Remedial has no current intention to return our isk. He feels that the corp has been stolen from him, and we can only assume he no longer feels any commitment to us, and from his actions he clearly does not even want to speak with us.

Fearing the worst, we acted. We have regained possession of approximately half the titan fund isk. However we were too late to save everything, the other half had been transferred by Remedial to an unaligned alt account with a name implying that it was to be used for isk selling, presumably to protect the remedial account from any ccp retaliation.

This is a dark day for Goonfleet. For many of us, Remedial has been a trusted friend and an inspiring leader. We can only feel disappointed by him, and he rejected by us.

Despite this being one of the largest “scams” in the history of eve – and probably of online games as a whole, it has not come about through cleverness, manipulation of greed, or through social élan. It should not be praised. It happened through disillusionment, abuse of earned trust and the end of friendships. It is sad.

We ask that goons refrain from going internet detective or in any way interfering with Remedial. The damage is done, and thanks to your donations the damage is not critical. We have made enough isk through donations that we can continue with the titan project, however our projected completion date has been delayed by several weeks.

And now you know.

This was the big announcement.

Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:42:00 - [4]
 

This was hard to see coming, like the sun coming up every morning.

Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:43:00 - [5]
 

if its true its pretty sad. Just goes to show you cant really trust anyone in an internet spaceship game.

Go figure...

Dave White
Caldari
Interlude.
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:45:00 - [6]
 

Low blow...but still, Hah!Laughing

Helganstandt
Caldari
Finis Lumen
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:45:00 - [7]
 

It's interesting how little I'm finding I care about these things anymore.

Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:49:00 - [8]
 

WE;LP

Also, paging GS Titanfund to this thread. :V


Xrak
Caldari
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:52:00 - [9]
 

Lol, just as he gets 3 EON awards. Hope you goons are happy with the choices you made.

Djinn Sling
Gallente
Kokonut Krushers
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:55:00 - [10]
 


I honestly feel sorry for the people that had their trust abused. He's qualifying as a lawyer you say?

Hell mend all parasites


AegriSomnia
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:58:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Xrak
Lol, just as he gets 3 EON awards. Hope you goons are happy with the choices you made.



Would probably do it all over again, smartmouth. Read the OP again, this is done becasue of feelings of betrayal, not maliciousness. Remedial is 10x the leader that anyone BoB could put forward.

Say something else about Remedial, I dare you, you *snip*

Please refrain from using profanity and making personal attacks -Yipsilanti (mods@ccpgames.com)

FatKao
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 22:58:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: FatKao on 05/07/2007 22:58:39
Oh **** son, we done got burned.

Someone needs to post remedial's response so I can post "I'm da director in the op"

madaluap
Gallente
Anthrax Foundation
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:00:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Stranger Ranger
We were mistaken.

He even ignored those who had attended his wedding.



Damn, thats personal. You must have ****ed him off a lot than.

Originally by: Stranger Ranger

He has changed his passwords.



You realise that using each others account is a bannable offence?

August Personage
Caldari
Clarf Inc
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:01:00 - [14]
 

a+++ would read again

Crivens
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:05:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: August Personage
a+++ would read again


:) I wrote that, Blitter edited it a little but I think I did a good job. It's pretty accurate too, I was there :(

Archilies
Minmatar
The Wild Hunt
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:06:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Djinn Sling

I honestly feel sorry for the people that had their trust abused. He's qualifying as a lawyer you say?





Probably an insurance lawyerRazz

Angelus X
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:08:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: AegriSomnia
this is done becasue of feelings of betrayal, not maliciousness. Remedial is 10x the leader that anyone BoB could put forward.



Ohhhhh, well that's okay then Very Happy
10x the leader of any of ours, Clearly? Laughing

Astarte Nosferatu
Minmatar
Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:09:00 - [18]
 

Goonswarm is going to die, again.

I'm seriously doubting this is even true, just like that time when BE stole the IRON Mothership and loads of Carriers.

Vile rat
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:09:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Xrak
Lol, just as he gets 3 EON awards. Hope you goons are happy with the choices you made.



How much would you pay to be rid of that fat piece of crap?

Walt Flanagan
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:12:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Walt Flanagan on 05/07/2007 23:12:35
Originally by: Angelus X
10x the leader of any of ours, Clearly? Laughing


He's at least 20x the leader of any of yours.

Physically.

Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
I'm seriously doubting this is even true, just like that time when BE stole the IRON Mothership and loads of Carriers.


Sorry, it's true.

Hrin
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:12:00 - [21]
 

Didn't everyone see this coming? Its been a running joke since the titan fund's inception.

Skrypt
Gallente
Game-Over
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:12:00 - [22]
 

Golden! Laughing

Valchor
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:14:00 - [23]
 

*snip* - please don't troll. -Ivan K

Zell
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:14:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: AegriSomnia
Originally by: Xrak
Lol, just as he gets 3 EON awards. Hope you goons are happy with the choices you made.



Would probably do it all over again, smartmouth. Read the OP again, this is done becasue of feelings of betrayal, not maliciousness. Remedial is 10x the leader that anyone BoB could put forward.

Say something else about Remedial, I dare you, you ***got.






The best of the worst, is still the worst of the best....

LaughingLaughingLaughing


Angelus Damelon
Gallente
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:15:00 - [25]
 

i am shocked, SHOCKED

Vital Efters
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:16:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Stranger Ranger
We were mistaken.

He even ignored those who had attended his wedding.



Damn, thats personal. You must have ****ed him off a lot than.

Originally by: Stranger Ranger

He has changed his passwords.




You realise that using each others account is a bannable offence?


Guys they might ban remedials titan fund account then we will lose all that isk owai

Myk Taison
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:17:00 - [27]
 

it's me




i'm remedial
who wants some isk

dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:17:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Orangir
Edited by: Orangir on 05/07/2007 22:38:29
spy

booya no double post for you



Nice job Orangir Laughing

Di Jiensai
Gallente
Domination.
THE KLINGONS
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:18:00 - [29]
 

Well Well, Never trust a goon.
Who would have thought.

Xtreem
Gallente
Reverse Psychology.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2007.07.05 23:19:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Xtreem on 05/07/2007 23:18:35
i honestly think this is a plot to make people think

oh i knew they were going for a titan, pity they wont have one for ages now, so we wont bother to look

*secretly in the bat cave*
quick finnish the titan before they come looking for it, our plan is working

*month from now*

boom headshot on unprepaired allaince bs/support fleet.
/goons win major epeen we tricked you thread

i post, yes i was right

game over eve quits eve and the servers go home

ok so i may have added a bit, but i do think the top bit is the real score, either way will be fun.

if it is true then sucks and i got on great with the guy talked to him alot when 3FA trinity i was (yoda)


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