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Rainrix Deathwish
Minmatar
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Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.03.25 10:56:00 - [91]
 

So maybe it could be a strange "psychic" incident. That's how it managed to appear in all systems at the same time and break the laws of physics..? It was more something that appeared in every human's mind at the same time?

Though I really don't know exactly how that would even work... Just one idea that hasn't been covered. I wouldn't be too sure if i'd even believe it... But hey you gotta throw every theory out there I suppose.

Amarth Thargan
Posted - 2008.03.25 11:20:00 - [92]
 

Could have been somekind of gigantic visual trick (anything is possible I presume), but that can only be theorized after one has found out what kind of emmision we were witnessing.
Because as I said before, there is a chance that some other type of emmision might be visually registered the same as light, but it could be something completely different if you start looking at it more closely.

I hope that some of the scientist who were watching the source of emmision will become a bit more forthcoming with their raw data.

Inanna Zuni
Minmatar
The Causality
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.03.26 00:55:00 - [93]
 

If something is so distant, beyond the edge of the universe (should there be theoretically or practically such a thing I know not), then were it bright enough to be seen through the dustless vacuum of space in all regions at one time, and to disappear at one time, then could that be an explanation of the short-lived event that was this bright 'star'? Just as planets have been mistaken for stars in our planet-bound history, could not distant multi-stellar events like the collisions of galaxies give rise to a similar ocular experience?

Did any stellar monitoring organisation get data on the 'star' during its brief appearance across New Eve? Was there a consistent spectrum?

Indeed, I have heard religious friends talk of it being an omen of the birth of something - or death of a far-off race ...

Inanna Zuni

Amarth Thargan
Posted - 2008.03.26 09:22:00 - [94]
 

Religious people and their Omens...do they really believe we as a whole would be worthy enough to be granted such things? Some of our lesser "friends" still dabble in primitive acts such as slavery.
The Jovians even don't bother talking to us, just because their computers are smart enough to write poetry. Why would any god ,who should be in theory endlessly beyond any capability of the Jovians, be intrested in us at all?

No, I'll stick to my theory that it is some new kind of cosmic event with an emmision-type that is visible and almost equaly intense at any distance.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.03.27 18:57:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Darina Rea
Comments please?

All this warping around in fast ships has probably warped (pun intended) your perspective of distance.

I do not know exactly the interval between the first observed disappearance of this phenomena, and the last, but it was without doubt a _very_ short interval. Less than a day at most, perhaps close to instantly.

So if we look at your diagrams and consider the above, and assume it was photons traveling from that far-away source at the usual speed. Imagine then that we have a sphere with the phenomena at the center. Now let's look at the largest possible interval, 24 hours or less, in which the phenomena disappearing was observed throughout the cluster. One day is the time it takes for light to travel from the outer planets to the sun of a typical solar system.

Then remember the sphere surface that represents the appearance and cutoff intervals of the phenomena. Imagine those as two (very) slightly curved section of the spheres surfaces, one light-day thick. Now looks at your pod's map of the cluster.

Even in optimal conditions the best-fit would still be require an interval (or thickness of the sphere surface) far exceeding the lifetime of a well-treated minmatar slave, and they live longer than a day...

This applies no matter where the phenomena was located, assuming there was just one source.

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So what can we conclude from this? That the phenomena can't be both far away _and_ emitting photons that travel at the usual speed of light. It would have to be at least 4 to 5 orders of magnitude faster than normal light, and that's a very conservative estimate of the lower-bound.

It has been said that extra-ordinary claims requires extra-ordinary proof... We got the proof, but I'm rather confused as to what the claim is.

Darina Rea
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
Posted - 2008.03.28 00:26:00 - [96]
 

It seems that your warping around has warped your close reading skills somewhat, pun intended and stab repayed.

If you read closely I have not stated that the light that we saw of the Bright Star is travelling with the speed of light as we know it. I did however state that it is one of the factors that we can, mathematically wise, calculate using the data gathered during the event and at the closure of the event. I have been carefull enough to put it in as a variable, rather then a constant value.

With that in mind, I'm not sure what your point is other then that the speed of light emitted by the Bright Star seems to be different from the normal lightspeed.

Amarth Thargan
Posted - 2008.03.28 16:01:00 - [97]
 

There are no readings, no precendent and unless you are religious no established theoretical explanation for what has occured.
We can discuss all we want, but all that remains is the fact that we all voice our own little opinions and opinions do not constitute the truth.

For all I known I could be an omen from some god, I just find that very very very unlikely to nearly impossible, but until recently an istant galaxy-wide light appearance-event was also though to be highly unlikely of ever happening, but it did.

Khan Zu
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.03.30 18:39:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Inanna Zuni
(should there be theoretically or practically such a thing I know not)


Space just keeps on going.

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like the collisions of galaxies give rise to a similar ocular experience?


Galaxies don't actually collide, they just swirl together, nothing actually smashes together. Our galaxy could collide with another and you wouldn't even notice, it'd take billions of years to resolve.

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Did any stellar monitoring organisation get data on the 'star' during its brief appearance across New Eve? Was there a consistent spectrum?


Yes, according to one of the news reports it emitted equal amounts of energy across the entire EM spectrum. Which is nifty. It is a perfectly "white" object.


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