The new TQ patch is being readied up on Singularity as I just pointed out in the news. I didn't list there some of the improvements which are not yet in but we're finalizing internally. I might delay the patch to get all of these in if they take more time to finish, but unfortunately I have other things to consider than just these points. Here are the main things (Excluding general bug fixes):
- Small and Medium Control Towers. The Medium should fulfill many of the average corp needs and the Small is very mobile, but doesn't give you very much flexibility. This should definately add to the opportunities below 0.4 and even more so when we implement the new world order.
- Agents now correctly take into consideration the security rating of the system they are in. There was a bug in the formula so that previously, the higher the level and better Effective Quality the agent, the less security rating had effect on the Reward/Bonus Reward/LP. This is now done correctly resulting in some high sec agent runners getting nerfed (high LVL, high EQ, 1.0) and low sec runners getting some love too (high LVL, high EQ, 0.0). However, this is not a deliberate nerf dear friends, I have been quite adamant on not nerfing Empire to boost low sec runners, but this is how it is supposed to be and we have to correct that.
- More agent stuff, Tech Level 2 Components will be exchanged with Materials lower in the Component chain to be less disruptive to this upcoming market and encouraging agent runners to either group and set up their own (Small/Medium) Starbase setups or sell to moon material aggregators. This probably will nerf the YAY4TL2C rewards but reward calculation will compensate to some extent the movement of the reward to the material since it has lower unit cost (Short, you get multiple units of materials for each unit of TL2C you would have gotten).
- Sheeet Lodz of new missions (44 to be exact), Zrakor has been quite busy, he also balanced many offers, including Navy and implant offers. (Some new skills in there too)
- 4 new Deadspace Complexes are in and many of the current ones have had some changes. A difficulty 8 Gurista, diff. 6 and 10 Sansha and a diff. 6 Rogue are the ones coming.
- Electronic Warfare / Propulsion Warfare is still scheduled to come in, now with proper UI support. I know it's quite a turnaround in gameplay and we're still testing it so it might get cut - but currently it's going in.
- Pulse Laser Nerf is in, I think Hammer did a good job on those, it's mainly working on their range. Personally I'd like to look into Beams as a result since they have never been very useful, but thats perhaps something for next patch. Any comments on why the second smallest L laser is getting nerfed can easily seen in the link provided.
- Hybrid turrets getting a small decrease in Cap usage is what we're discussing right now, hope we get this one in. The sugar on top would be a small decrease in grid usage too, but I wouldn't count on that one. How's that for hybrid love?
- System Scanning times cut down considerably and the Covert Op getting a System scan bonus (YAY4TW)
- Pilots in Space will now show a 30 minute average count. I really want this into this patch, it's not our final solution, but I think it's an improvement of over the current situation. This is a compromise which moves towards the blacking out of the map in 0.0 but also leaves room for improvement with things such as Starbase structures or skills/ships/modules which can give up-to-date info on systems or even whole constellations. I'm open for changing the 30 minute interval up or down based on experience, this can be done during downtime so feel free opening up some threads on the issue.
- Ammo changes is a candidate for cutting, I'd like to test them some more before going out.
- Lets not forget that Stealth Bombers are in.
- Not to mention mutual war declarations. A party which is declared upon can accept the war declaration, resulting in no cost being billed to the declarer.
- We are also finalizing a simplification to the war cost calculations. Wars including corporations should now cost 2M pr. week as usual and a war including an Alliance on any end will cost the fixed amount of 50M pr. week, size does no longer matter. The number of wars multiplier is still active, based on wars declared by you. The startup cost is exactly the same as the weekly fee and it does no longer consider cancelled wars towards the war multiplier (which was a bug, some other ones also fixed). Note: Increased after further investigating active current active wars on TQ
- Why stop here? Lets not. Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices.
We are also putting in a number of optimizations in this patch, most notably a change to how we handle ammunition. This change makes ammo use less database resources and should hopefully result in better performance (ie SPIFFEH) under a number of circumstances, but we won't see any real results until it's live on Tranquility.
This patch is scheduled to go to Tranquility within the next 3 weeks depending on how testing goes on Singularity. I expect patch notes to be available before the weekend.
After we wrap up this patch we will start work on the next content patch, which is some months down the road, featuring 2 if not 3 new ship classes, the new world order and a paradigm shift in how you will look at agents (literally).
reported by CCP Oveur | 2005.03.15 11:55:34
Comments
Kiithnaras on 15 March 2005
Whoo! first post! ^_^ All very nice so far, can't wait to see how things are going to turn out =D And I want a bloody Dread >:)
Whoo! first post! ^_^ All very nice so far, can't wait to see how things are going to turn out =D And I want a bloody Dread >:)
Kiithnaras on 15 March 2005
and I still say that artillery (not atc's) need a _minor_ damage mod increase, but that's just me *shrug*
and I still say that artillery (not atc's) need a _minor_ damage mod increase, but that's just me *shrug*
Albus on 15 March 2005
Hurrah for hybrid boost! Yay for Stealth Bombers! Booo for ammo changes - only 3 types of range is baaaaad. Wooo, patchy goodness. Hurrah for words like paradigm!
Hurrah for hybrid boost! Yay for Stealth Bombers! Booo for ammo changes - only 3 types of range is baaaaad. Wooo, patchy goodness. Hurrah for words like paradigm!
Zeromancer on 15 March 2005
Looking good. 44 new missions is great. I also welcome the cap adjustment on the hybrids, and if i read it correctly there will be 24 more lab and factoryslots pr station. Looks like the market for selling labslots just went poof :P
Looking good. 44 new missions is great. I also welcome the cap adjustment on the hybrids, and if i read it correctly there will be 24 more lab and factoryslots pr station. Looks like the market for selling labslots just went poof :P
Albus on 15 March 2005
Oh, and errrrr, maybe woo for the map changes. Must admit it was more fun on the few occasions the map has been broken :-)
Oh, and errrrr, maybe woo for the map changes. Must admit it was more fun on the few occasions the map has been broken :-)
Namelesz on 15 March 2005
OMG, if the hybrids change makes it in next patch I will do backflips! And also lookin forward to the stealth bomber, all in all this looks to be a great patch, even with the EW changes.
OMG, if the hybrids change makes it in next patch I will do backflips! And also lookin forward to the stealth bomber, all in all this looks to be a great patch, even with the EW changes.
Sillente NiKunni on 15 March 2005
Youhouuuu i love ALL changes .... Great for system scanning ... Great for alll!!!!
Youhouuuu i love ALL changes .... Great for system scanning ... Great for alll!!!!
Puncher on 15 March 2005
30m for an Alliance war is way to little. Anyone can make that in a week, heck even a day. You're giving free reign for everyone to war dec. Alliances. I see big changes happening because of this...
30m for an Alliance war is way to little. Anyone can make that in a week, heck even a day. You're giving free reign for everyone to war dec. Alliances. I see big changes happening because of this...
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Puncher: The 30M pr. week is not far from the standard bill if you count it as the first war. The multplier hits them as well as other, meaning the next war is double and so on. The # of corporation multiplier just caused confusion for players and GM's alike and opened up for exploit where alliances just added alt corps to incrase the cost.
Puncher: The 30M pr. week is not far from the standard bill if you count it as the first war. The multplier hits them as well as other, meaning the next war is double and so on. The # of corporation multiplier just caused confusion for players and GM's alike and opened up for exploit where alliances just added alt corps to incrase the cost.
Puncher on 15 March 2005
In fact, a much better idea would be to increase the war cost by 10% a week. And when the war is over, decrease the cost by 10% per week until it reaches the base cost again. And increase the base cost to 100m.
In fact, a much better idea would be to increase the war cost by 10% a week. And when the war is over, decrease the cost by 10% per week until it reaches the base cost again. And increase the base cost to 100m.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Puncher: That would not do very much for simplication and transparency, would it? And what prevents you from declaring, cancelling, declaring then cancelling? Another rule? We're quickly moving from simple if we go in that direction.
Puncher: That would not do very much for simplication and transparency, would it? And what prevents you from declaring, cancelling, declaring then cancelling? Another rule? We're quickly moving from simple if we go in that direction.
Zorglub Kosmos on 15 March 2005
And I was about to post a thread on the forums asking about the next patch and what was in store for us.
And I was about to post a thread on the forums asking about the next patch and what was in store for us.
Puncher on 15 March 2005
Sure, I agree with not counting the number of corporations in the Alliance towards the cost. And while the multiplier for the number of wars is a good system, declaring on the 3 major Alliances would cost a corporation 180m per week. Easily achievable by many corps. Without any significant monetary loss, Empire will be turned into unsecure space, and the drain seen on the Alliances will be immense.
Sure, I agree with not counting the number of corporations in the Alliance towards the cost. And while the multiplier for the number of wars is a good system, declaring on the 3 major Alliances would cost a corporation 180m per week. Easily achievable by many corps. Without any significant monetary loss, Empire will be turned into unsecure space, and the drain seen on the Alliances will be immense.
Lo3d3R on 15 March 2005
anyone know more about the "stealth bomber" can find allot on forums, im wondering what class of ship this is etc thx and yarr [:pirate:]
anyone know more about the "stealth bomber" can find allot on forums, im wondering what class of ship this is etc thx and yarr [:pirate:]
Alex Bester on 15 March 2005
Hurra for Stealth Bombers!! 2x ;) Boo Hiss for ammo changes 3x Small/Med Towers = cool no more T2C from agents, will make things interesting -> can't wait for patch
Hurra for Stealth Bombers!! 2x ;) Boo Hiss for ammo changes 3x Small/Med Towers = cool no more T2C from agents, will make things interesting -> can't wait for patch
Helison on 15 March 2005
Some very great changes! I fear that Small und Medium CTīs wonīt help much. They seem to have not enough CPU for anything. But they will be still nearly impossible to destroy. Make them more profitable, but make them also more vulnerable! Ammunition handling: Is in the moment a bit buggy on Sisi, itīs not possible to load more than one gun at the same time.
Some very great changes! I fear that Small und Medium CTīs wonīt help much. They seem to have not enough CPU for anything. But they will be still nearly impossible to destroy. Make them more profitable, but make them also more vulnerable! Ammunition handling: Is in the moment a bit buggy on Sisi, itīs not possible to load more than one gun at the same time.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Puncher: I can be convinced to increase that cost, it's just an average number based on current war costs. I'll follow the alliance war declarations and if your predictions are true, I can easily change the 30M during downtime.
Puncher: I can be convinced to increase that cost, it's just an average number based on current war costs. I'll follow the alliance war declarations and if your predictions are true, I can easily change the 30M during downtime.
Puncher on 15 March 2005
I'm not sure on the complicated part. If you war dec, cost goes up one week later. If you cancel, cost is still the same until another week passes and it goes down again.
I'm not sure on the complicated part. If you war dec, cost goes up one week later. If you cancel, cost is still the same until another week passes and it goes down again.
Redeol on 15 March 2005
Oveur where can we find info on the stealthsbombers d00d ?? :(
Oveur where can we find info on the stealthsbombers d00d ?? :(
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Helison: They can refine, they can mine moons, they will most likely do simple reactions (pending on a small code change that hopefully gets through testing). Impossible to destroy? Not really, the Small has 25% the shield/armor of the current ones, the Medium 50%. Starbases might in general get less defenses, but that would apply to all and not in this patch.
Helison: They can refine, they can mine moons, they will most likely do simple reactions (pending on a small code change that hopefully gets through testing). Impossible to destroy? Not really, the Small has 25% the shield/armor of the current ones, the Medium 50%. Starbases might in general get less defenses, but that would apply to all and not in this patch.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Redeol: STEALTH <- SIKRIT
Redeol: STEALTH <- SIKRIT
Puncher on 15 March 2005
Okay, I'll stop teh sp4m. :-P Thanks for the quick replies, etc. I do see some huge repurcussions, but as long as you're open to persuasion that's cool. ;-)
Okay, I'll stop teh sp4m. :-P Thanks for the quick replies, etc. I do see some huge repurcussions, but as long as you're open to persuasion that's cool. ;-)
The Sloth on 15 March 2005
Thanks for the update Oveur!
Thanks for the update Oveur!
Renbo on 15 March 2005
30m are -way- to easy for a single player to get in a week this time; I suspect we'll see may few player pirate corps, or even 1 player pirate corps declaring wars on one big alliance just to be able to sit in Yulai and have lots of helpless newbie alliance players roaming around... Base cost should be much higher... alliances don't like to combat in empire space anyway; since they mostly fight against other 0.0 entities or defend their 0.0 space... Its true that theoretically an alliance can take its fleet into empire and start hunting the (very small) entities that declared war on them - but they have much better things to do in 0.0 space...
30m are -way- to easy for a single player to get in a week this time; I suspect we'll see may few player pirate corps, or even 1 player pirate corps declaring wars on one big alliance just to be able to sit in Yulai and have lots of helpless newbie alliance players roaming around... Base cost should be much higher... alliances don't like to combat in empire space anyway; since they mostly fight against other 0.0 entities or defend their 0.0 space... Its true that theoretically an alliance can take its fleet into empire and start hunting the (very small) entities that declared war on them - but they have much better things to do in 0.0 space...
muujo on 15 March 2005
30m? really? I would love to get 30m... I don't even come close to 30m a month! Be careful how you assume how much each player can earn... Not everyone is flying BS and mining bistot in 0.0 space.
30m? really? I would love to get 30m... I don't even come close to 30m a month! Be careful how you assume how much each player can earn... Not everyone is flying BS and mining bistot in 0.0 space.
Selim on 15 March 2005
Oh man... DONT BOOST BEAM LASERS. They are FINE as they are. People dont use them right now because pulse are too uber. ;) Also, if you're gonna decrease hybrid powergrid use... decrease it on projectiles, too. Its pretty damn hard to fit artillery. Cap use ok decrease that a little.
Oh man... DONT BOOST BEAM LASERS. They are FINE as they are. People dont use them right now because pulse are too uber. ;) Also, if you're gonna decrease hybrid powergrid use... decrease it on projectiles, too. Its pretty damn hard to fit artillery. Cap use ok decrease that a little.
Inoxx on 15 March 2005
must... have.... stealth... bombers.... *drools
must... have.... stealth... bombers.... *drools
Selim on 15 March 2005
Oh lemme add - The ammo changes are good, except for the fact that lasers have a supreme advantage at choosing range now. Instant crystal swappage, combined with no -25% or +25% ammo, means that artillery and railguns are incredibly inflexible. Rod Blaine made some very good posts on this, but basically lasers also get more bonus from tracking computers and the high range ammo. Please look into rectifying this. I'll also add, that a skill needs to be added to lower reloading times. Lasers and hybrids have a skill to reduce cap usage, why shouldnt projectiles (and hybrids too) get a skill to reduce reloading times by 10-15% per level? Reloading times are a real PITA and lasers have a huge benefit there.
Oh lemme add - The ammo changes are good, except for the fact that lasers have a supreme advantage at choosing range now. Instant crystal swappage, combined with no -25% or +25% ammo, means that artillery and railguns are incredibly inflexible. Rod Blaine made some very good posts on this, but basically lasers also get more bonus from tracking computers and the high range ammo. Please look into rectifying this. I'll also add, that a skill needs to be added to lower reloading times. Lasers and hybrids have a skill to reduce cap usage, why shouldnt projectiles (and hybrids too) get a skill to reduce reloading times by 10-15% per level? Reloading times are a real PITA and lasers have a huge benefit there.
Mr Bigglesworth on 15 March 2005
Oveur, I believe the 30 minute count is too much. Kill the map entirely, you know you want to. 30 minutes means the map will be useless for general pvp but still leaves the poor people with starbases in small corners of the universe wide open since their operations are limited to that system.
Oveur, I believe the 30 minute count is too much. Kill the map entirely, you know you want to. 30 minutes means the map will be useless for general pvp but still leaves the poor people with starbases in small corners of the universe wide open since their operations are limited to that system.
Asuncion Ardishapur on 15 March 2005
What ever happended to the HP increase? I am tired of 30 sec fleet battles.
What ever happended to the HP increase? I am tired of 30 sec fleet battles.
Flammius on 15 March 2005
I was going to write some spiffee comment but I think I'll just settle for: OMG OMG! Overur 4tw - this patch looks great! :)) PS: Beam lasers could use some lower pg requirements, that would be enough I think.
I was going to write some spiffee comment but I think I'll just settle for: OMG OMG! Overur 4tw - this patch looks great! :)) PS: Beam lasers could use some lower pg requirements, that would be enough I think.
Jim Steele on 15 March 2005
stealth bombers??
stealth bombers??
Hellspawn01 on 15 March 2005
Can we have a new discussion about EW changes like yay or nay before you make them live? I asked as you suggested the changes some weeks ago and now you say they come for sure. Will you listen to us first or just do what you want?
Can we have a new discussion about EW changes like yay or nay before you make them live? I asked as you suggested the changes some weeks ago and now you say they come for sure. Will you listen to us first or just do what you want?
Ifni on 15 March 2005
So whats left for the solo hunter? I can't find my target, I can't hold them still if I do. Where's the PVP?
So whats left for the solo hunter? I can't find my target, I can't hold them still if I do. Where's the PVP?
Selim on 15 March 2005
the only beam laser that needs less powergrid is the medium beam for frigates.
the only beam laser that needs less powergrid is the medium beam for frigates.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Hellspawn01: Perhaps you should read that EW sentence of mine once again.
Hellspawn01: Perhaps you should read that EW sentence of mine once again.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Mr. Bigglesworth: You mean too little, right? Or do you mean have a shorter update interval, say like 15 minutes? I'm not sure what you mean because killing the map entirely does not constitute "less" in my mind. Either way, I can change the interval easily in downtime. Blacking out the map will only be considered when the rest of the solution is in place.
Mr. Bigglesworth: You mean too little, right? Or do you mean have a shorter update interval, say like 15 minutes? I'm not sure what you mean because killing the map entirely does not constitute "less" in my mind. Either way, I can change the interval easily in downtime. Blacking out the map will only be considered when the rest of the solution is in place.
Hakera on 15 March 2005
the 30mill cap looks nice on war bills. Im tired of seeing our own alliances war bills shoot upwards past 100mill plus moreso as the corp declaring against us must be. Also the rising incidence of alliances using alt corps to inflate war cost was starting to get out of hand in some alliances so all in all a very good move. Hell if the alliances are too carebear, they can always use alt corps and probably do outside the alliance. I especially like the scanning and covert ops changes, Ive yet to have a successful occurance of finding someone before they either move again or log. The decreasing of T2 componant drops to ingediants is a good move andhopefully lead to a phase out once POS production picks up.
the 30mill cap looks nice on war bills. Im tired of seeing our own alliances war bills shoot upwards past 100mill plus moreso as the corp declaring against us must be. Also the rising incidence of alliances using alt corps to inflate war cost was starting to get out of hand in some alliances so all in all a very good move. Hell if the alliances are too carebear, they can always use alt corps and probably do outside the alliance. I especially like the scanning and covert ops changes, Ive yet to have a successful occurance of finding someone before they either move again or log. The decreasing of T2 componant drops to ingediants is a good move andhopefully lead to a phase out once POS production picks up.
Viceroy on 15 March 2005
Oveur I demand that you get a divorce and marry me right now.
Oveur I demand that you get a divorce and marry me right now.
Scorpyn on 15 March 2005
Seems to be mostly good stuff in this patch. What kind of system scanning bonus will the covert ops ships get? Making it faster? Greater probe range? More than 1AU up/down? Something else?
Seems to be mostly good stuff in this patch. What kind of system scanning bonus will the covert ops ships get? Making it faster? Greater probe range? More than 1AU up/down? Something else?
Riser on 15 March 2005
Does anyone have any info on theses new Stealth Bombers ???
Does anyone have any info on theses new Stealth Bombers ???
Lig Lira on 15 March 2005
yay, this looks like a great patch!
yay, this looks like a great patch!
NTRabbit on 15 March 2005
Hands off Viceroy, he's mine!
Hands off Viceroy, he's mine!
Andarvi on 15 March 2005
It will be interesting to see how the 30 min average affect blob wars. My guess is alt scouts will begin to multiply like rabbits. Lasers got their swipe of the nerf bat, but what about the missiles? They have been in 'rebalancing' for longer than pulse.
It will be interesting to see how the 30 min average affect blob wars. My guess is alt scouts will begin to multiply like rabbits. Lasers got their swipe of the nerf bat, but what about the missiles? They have been in 'rebalancing' for longer than pulse.
Pyrotesea on 15 March 2005
\o/
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Blitz0r on 15 March 2005
nice changes, i do tend to agree that 30mil is way to cheap. This will mean that all Alliances will have wars constantly == They can't travel into empire at all without support from their troops. How about a roof of 100mil? makes more sence though. It should hurt the corps that decides to declare war against a alliance, thats why we have alliances right? or have the limit go up per week you have the wars active(haxor declare and surrender every week) i'd also like to see the amount of time before it becomes active / goes away increased. 24 hours is way to little when retracting the wars. how about several days? or am i being stupid? my 5 cents on it... cant wait to get online on SISI tonight.
nice changes, i do tend to agree that 30mil is way to cheap. This will mean that all Alliances will have wars constantly == They can't travel into empire at all without support from their troops. How about a roof of 100mil? makes more sence though. It should hurt the corps that decides to declare war against a alliance, thats why we have alliances right? or have the limit go up per week you have the wars active(haxor declare and surrender every week) i'd also like to see the amount of time before it becomes active / goes away increased. 24 hours is way to little when retracting the wars. how about several days? or am i being stupid? my 5 cents on it... cant wait to get online on SISI tonight.
Renttu on 15 March 2005
More info about the agent nerf please. Was very vague how it was mentioned.
More info about the agent nerf please. Was very vague how it was mentioned.
LoxyRider on 15 March 2005
I demand these "SIKRIT" be released! Or i will be forced to pretend to fly around the room with my arms out saying "wooosh". Maybe even a "Ratatatataa" in there too for good measure.
I demand these "SIKRIT" be released! Or i will be forced to pretend to fly around the room with my arms out saying "wooosh". Maybe even a "Ratatatataa" in there too for good measure.
Weebear on 15 March 2005
The bad thing about having a fixed price war is that now you can pay 1 billion for your corp to be the executor of an alliance and still be a single corp however wars against you now cost a lot more. An expensive form of insurance, but within a lot of corps means. At the other end of the scale it is now cheaper to declare legal piracy against large alliances. The war system is still in need of a lot of thought however i am happy to see that war by mutual consent is now an option. I take it either side can surrender in this situation?
The bad thing about having a fixed price war is that now you can pay 1 billion for your corp to be the executor of an alliance and still be a single corp however wars against you now cost a lot more. An expensive form of insurance, but within a lot of corps means. At the other end of the scale it is now cheaper to declare legal piracy against large alliances. The war system is still in need of a lot of thought however i am happy to see that war by mutual consent is now an option. I take it either side can surrender in this situation?
dimensionZ on 15 March 2005
what about factory POS structure ? any ETA?
what about factory POS structure ? any ETA?
Oi Poloi on 15 March 2005
I lub you oveur!
I lub you oveur!
Jexter on 15 March 2005
Rock and Roll!
Rock and Roll!
Arbenowskee on 15 March 2005
stats on the stealth bombers are where? :)
stats on the stealth bombers are where? :)
Hakera on 15 March 2005
"This will mean that all Alliances will have wars constantly == They can't travel into empire at all without support from their troops." This is a misconception, i live and fight in the empire in an alliance, and not only is it easy to avoid enemies when you want to, its very easy to run when you dont want to fight. This scenario of alliances dying in droves just isn't real. IF war declaration start to get out of hand, like when it was 1mill, then Oveur can increase that to 50mill, but tbh the generalisation that its easy to earn 50mill is very biased and not the case for most of Eve (Im sure Oveur can put figures to average income)
"This will mean that all Alliances will have wars constantly == They can't travel into empire at all without support from their troops." This is a misconception, i live and fight in the empire in an alliance, and not only is it easy to avoid enemies when you want to, its very easy to run when you dont want to fight. This scenario of alliances dying in droves just isn't real. IF war declaration start to get out of hand, like when it was 1mill, then Oveur can increase that to 50mill, but tbh the generalisation that its easy to earn 50mill is very biased and not the case for most of Eve (Im sure Oveur can put figures to average income)
prsr on 15 March 2005
Looks like I'm gonna have to duel viceroy to get Oveurs babies... just my luck. Just wanted to say good work to the guys from ISD as well since they seem to be doing a very good job relaying the major problems as discussed on the forums to the dev team.
Looks like I'm gonna have to duel viceroy to get Oveurs babies... just my luck. Just wanted to say good work to the guys from ISD as well since they seem to be doing a very good job relaying the major problems as discussed on the forums to the dev team.
Chigaboo on 15 March 2005
Pulse lasers are one of the main assets of amarr battleships and battlecruisers so what exactly is changing are we having ranges totally cut?, is it just for radio crystals? is it a fall off decrease?
Pulse lasers are one of the main assets of amarr battleships and battlecruisers so what exactly is changing are we having ranges totally cut?, is it just for radio crystals? is it a fall off decrease?
Hellspawn01 on 15 March 2005
Oveur: I did, thats why I asked. Still missing an answer from you.
Oveur: I did, thats why I asked. Still missing an answer from you.
Jonkai on 15 March 2005
Some good stuff there, got to say though the new EW and Jamming parts certainly hinder solo pilots. Actually pretty much killing solo pvp, unless I missed something?
Some good stuff there, got to say though the new EW and Jamming parts certainly hinder solo pilots. Actually pretty much killing solo pvp, unless I missed something?
Chode Rizoum on 15 March 2005
LUV IT !! .. exept ammo !
LUV IT !! .. exept ammo !
Plasmatique on 15 March 2005
Sounds good, but I'd still like to see the "dual" class of turrets get looked at. Higher tracking would be nice, make them more useful vs. one class under type ships.
Sounds good, but I'd still like to see the "dual" class of turrets get looked at. Higher tracking would be nice, make them more useful vs. one class under type ships.
Monty Burns on 15 March 2005
The main problem with Probes is that they APPEAR on scanner... remove this and everything is sorted. The time would not be an issue (although this is liked).
The main problem with Probes is that they APPEAR on scanner... remove this and everything is sorted. The time would not be an issue (although this is liked).
Verone on 15 March 2005
w00t
w00t
Kotori on 15 March 2005
i kno for a fact that im not the only person thinking this.... WTF ARE STEALTH BOMBERS??? oh and my 2 cents on the guy who sed that artillery cannons need a bigger damage mod... have you ever seen a rail gun do 1800 damage? Railguns in my opinion are most nerfed gun in the game. Not all that good damge, cant change range easy, have to choose between close and long setup (cant change from blasters to rails mid fight), etc etc. Its true also that with 3 ammo types only, lazers are gonna pwn still. But as we kno CCP love amarr so its to be expected
i kno for a fact that im not the only person thinking this.... WTF ARE STEALTH BOMBERS??? oh and my 2 cents on the guy who sed that artillery cannons need a bigger damage mod... have you ever seen a rail gun do 1800 damage? Railguns in my opinion are most nerfed gun in the game. Not all that good damge, cant change range easy, have to choose between close and long setup (cant change from blasters to rails mid fight), etc etc. Its true also that with 3 ammo types only, lazers are gonna pwn still. But as we kno CCP love amarr so its to be expected
BuRnEr on 15 March 2005
YAY btw 30 mill is a good sum! ppl in huge alliances just need to learn how to pvp, and what are you doing in empire anyway?.
YAY btw 30 mill is a good sum! ppl in huge alliances just need to learn how to pvp, and what are you doing in empire anyway?.
Odin Tahmorrex on 15 March 2005
At least tell us what skills to train for our ub3r st347h b0m83rz!!1 /leetspeak off Changes look good, even with the pulse nerf, and I fly amarr :) Beams do need some love, but the Proj need 'em first. And no, I don't use proj at all, I just feel sorry for them.
At least tell us what skills to train for our ub3r st347h b0m83rz!!1 /leetspeak off Changes look good, even with the pulse nerf, and I fly amarr :) Beams do need some love, but the Proj need 'em first. And no, I don't use proj at all, I just feel sorry for them.
ErrorS on 15 March 2005
i hope the ammo changes make it in.. i'm really looking forward to them
i hope the ammo changes make it in.. i'm really looking forward to them
Edmund Khan on 15 March 2005
Ok the last comment is great :) Oh, the changes also :)
Ok the last comment is great :) Oh, the changes also :)
Nicholai Pestot on 15 March 2005
The whole blog looks SPIFFEH!. As for empire space being un-safe for alliances after this, have you considered trading with those little corps in empire space, and flitering through some of teh moneh from you wallets to them? You dont HAVE to do everything within the alliance..deligate..subcontract. Oh hangon, CCP would have to include a formal contract system first... /me slaps oveur
The whole blog looks SPIFFEH!. As for empire space being un-safe for alliances after this, have you considered trading with those little corps in empire space, and flitering through some of teh moneh from you wallets to them? You dont HAVE to do everything within the alliance..deligate..subcontract. Oh hangon, CCP would have to include a formal contract system first... /me slaps oveur
Oveur on 15 March 2005
/me slaps himself just to be sure he gets it
/me slaps himself just to be sure he gets it
Hardin on 15 March 2005
Oveur - the mutual war declaration thing will also apply to alliances yeah? As in I just got a 98 million weekly bill for our war with Hakera and his chums in Ushra'Khan and I aint gonna pay that! If two alliances want to fight they should have the same 'no cost' option as corporations...
Oveur - the mutual war declaration thing will also apply to alliances yeah? As in I just got a 98 million weekly bill for our war with Hakera and his chums in Ushra'Khan and I aint gonna pay that! If two alliances want to fight they should have the same 'no cost' option as corporations...
Luc Boye on 15 March 2005
quote: - Hybrid turrets getting a small decrease in Cap usage is what we're discussing right now, hope we get this one in. The sugar on top would be a small decrease in grid usage too, but I wouldn't count on that one. How's that for hybrid love? Tauren Shaman ftw, thats how.
quote: - Hybrid turrets getting a small decrease in Cap usage is what we're discussing right now, hope we get this one in. The sugar on top would be a small decrease in grid usage too, but I wouldn't count on that one. How's that for hybrid love? Tauren Shaman ftw, thats how.
Deadzone on 15 March 2005
Oveur-- What about missles?? What about T2 missle launchers? We have just about all T2 guns in but not a bloody thing for missles.
Oveur-- What about missles?? What about T2 missle launchers? We have just about all T2 guns in but not a bloody thing for missles.
Mac Knife on 15 March 2005
Tbh i think the webbing/warp scrambling changes are going to ruin ceptor and frigate combat, make it almost non existant :( plz consider what ur doing b4 u make this game a bs blob war only pvp enviroment.
Tbh i think the webbing/warp scrambling changes are going to ruin ceptor and frigate combat, make it almost non existant :( plz consider what ur doing b4 u make this game a bs blob war only pvp enviroment.
Colthor on 15 March 2005
This all looks groovy :) How final are the ickle Control Tower stats? I want to run an Intensive Refinery on a Medium Tower. I don't mind if it takes skills, extra POS CPU modules that can't run 23/7, or you just fiddle with stats - This is what I want :) Please make it possible - some(any)how!
This all looks groovy :) How final are the ickle Control Tower stats? I want to run an Intensive Refinery on a Medium Tower. I don't mind if it takes skills, extra POS CPU modules that can't run 23/7, or you just fiddle with stats - This is what I want :) Please make it possible - some(any)how!
KanKan on 15 March 2005
Default sort by type ?
Default sort by type ?
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Hardin: Yes, it applies to all wars.
Hardin: Yes, it applies to all wars.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Luc: I play Troll Shaman myself. She'll take that oversized t-bone of yours and do it medium-rare.
Luc: I play Troll Shaman myself. She'll take that oversized t-bone of yours and do it medium-rare.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Deadzone: Looks like in the next patch, accompanying the missile changes.
Deadzone: Looks like in the next patch, accompanying the missile changes.
VortiK on 15 March 2005
Dreadnaught for summer \o/
Dreadnaught for summer \o/
Oveur on 15 March 2005
Colthor: You will use the smaller version of the Intensive Refinery to refine in a Medium Starbase. It has less throughput than the standard Intensive.
Colthor: You will use the smaller version of the Intensive Refinery to refine in a Medium Starbase. It has less throughput than the standard Intensive.
Oveur on 15 March 2005
KanKan: That's a general bugfix and is included in the patch.
KanKan: That's a general bugfix and is included in the patch.
Driven on 15 March 2005
Thanks for nerfing pulse lasers. Really appreciate that. Please continue to the keep the unwelcome, unanticipated, and ill-considered game mechanics changes coming. That way, all the pressure will be off any future decisions regarding skill specialization and ISK investment. After all, whatever decisions you make now, or in the near term, you can be sure in a few months, it won't matter one bit because EVERYTHING will be different! This is actually a big relief. I mean, here I was doing analysis, reading detailed information, studying markets, looking at websites and data. No longer! Now, to make important skill training decisions, I'll get drunk, blindfold myself, and throw darts at a listing of potential skills hanging on a wall. And as for investments to make, I'll now start asking my wife's cat. After all, what difference will it make? Meanwhile, might someone ask why it is just fine to go hosing those who have invested time and ISK in pulse lasers, while those who have invested in MISSILES THAT NEVER EVER MISS are just fine. It is game balancing like this that has lead to a situation where 3 out of every 4 battleships in the game are Ravens.
Thanks for nerfing pulse lasers. Really appreciate that. Please continue to the keep the unwelcome, unanticipated, and ill-considered game mechanics changes coming. That way, all the pressure will be off any future decisions regarding skill specialization and ISK investment. After all, whatever decisions you make now, or in the near term, you can be sure in a few months, it won't matter one bit because EVERYTHING will be different! This is actually a big relief. I mean, here I was doing analysis, reading detailed information, studying markets, looking at websites and data. No longer! Now, to make important skill training decisions, I'll get drunk, blindfold myself, and throw darts at a listing of potential skills hanging on a wall. And as for investments to make, I'll now start asking my wife's cat. After all, what difference will it make? Meanwhile, might someone ask why it is just fine to go hosing those who have invested time and ISK in pulse lasers, while those who have invested in MISSILES THAT NEVER EVER MISS are just fine. It is game balancing like this that has lead to a situation where 3 out of every 4 battleships in the game are Ravens.
Gierling on 15 March 2005
The Hybrid thing excites me. Less cap use means that I have more breathing room to run maybe a tracking comp, or I can squeeze in an extra cycle or two of repairing. Less grid use would make us all very happy, as I have a lot of ideas that I just can't run because they take just a tiny amount too much grid. A skoch more versatility, very much appreciatted. Thank you Oveur.
The Hybrid thing excites me. Less cap use means that I have more breathing room to run maybe a tracking comp, or I can squeeze in an extra cycle or two of repairing. Less grid use would make us all very happy, as I have a lot of ideas that I just can't run because they take just a tiny amount too much grid. A skoch more versatility, very much appreciatted. Thank you Oveur.
Selim on 15 March 2005
Oveur, can you give the Wolf its deserved 10% falloff bonus? Its only 5% right now, and its not just the description, either. It should be 10%. All other falloff bonuses are 10%, the harpy has 2 +10% optimal bonuses, too. And we all know that optimal range is alot better than falloff on long-range. So why not make it 15%? Well, one can always hope. Just make it 10%. I don't see why its only 5% now. Oh yeah and again dont lower hybrid powergrid reqs. And if you do, lower projectile ones too. Because hybrids and projectiles are pretty balanced atm.
Oveur, can you give the Wolf its deserved 10% falloff bonus? Its only 5% right now, and its not just the description, either. It should be 10%. All other falloff bonuses are 10%, the harpy has 2 +10% optimal bonuses, too. And we all know that optimal range is alot better than falloff on long-range. So why not make it 15%? Well, one can always hope. Just make it 10%. I don't see why its only 5% now. Oh yeah and again dont lower hybrid powergrid reqs. And if you do, lower projectile ones too. Because hybrids and projectiles are pretty balanced atm.
Ixion on 15 March 2005
DEFAULT SORT BY TYPE! Oh, and everything looks great.... except for caving into the minority extremist whiners' wishes for a pulse "nerf". Damn skippy if you make the beams worth their salt however. (i.e more range, less cap/grid) And Default sort by type already, jeezus! I spend half my playtime just sorting hangars.
DEFAULT SORT BY TYPE! Oh, and everything looks great.... except for caving into the minority extremist whiners' wishes for a pulse "nerf". Damn skippy if you make the beams worth their salt however. (i.e more range, less cap/grid) And Default sort by type already, jeezus! I spend half my playtime just sorting hangars.
Colthor on 15 March 2005
Hurrah and woohoo :) Toys to play with on the test server :) I also can't wait to admire a stealth-bomber, even if I won't be able to fly one for ages. Thanks, chaps!
Hurrah and woohoo :) Toys to play with on the test server :) I also can't wait to admire a stealth-bomber, even if I won't be able to fly one for ages. Thanks, chaps!
Cinnander on 15 March 2005
Reading this was like being at a fireworks show! Oohhhhhh Ahhhhhh! Wow! OMG! THAT GUY JUST GOT HIT IN TEH FACE BY A ROCEKT! NERF ROCKETS! Ohhh! Free BBQ? WHERE?! Ahhhh! oooh! Etc Great blog, looking forward to the hybrids sucking up less juice
Reading this was like being at a fireworks show! Oohhhhhh Ahhhhhh! Wow! OMG! THAT GUY JUST GOT HIT IN TEH FACE BY A ROCEKT! NERF ROCKETS! Ohhh! Free BBQ? WHERE?! Ahhhh! oooh! Etc Great blog, looking forward to the hybrids sucking up less juice
Ixion on 15 March 2005
Looks like I was posting while Oveur was responding. Default sort by type 4TW! Thanks! :)
Looks like I was posting while Oveur was responding. Default sort by type 4TW! Thanks! :)
DEVILSENIGMA on 15 March 2005
Looks like CCP wants to keep stealth bombers a secret. I didn't hear about them until this post.
Looks like CCP wants to keep stealth bombers a secret. I didn't hear about them until this post.
Vegeta on 15 March 2005
*kiss*
*kiss*
LB424 on 15 March 2005
Stealth bombers... Well, if you're going to include stealth capable combat ships (non-cov ops) you can go about it two ways: 1) +500% or so fitting requirements to warp scrambling modules on stealth bombers if they're capable of locking while cloaked - prevent the omgwtfbbq and I didn't eve see it coming. 2) Have sig radius size smaller than small drones - reflects "real world" stealth technology. They're not invisible, they just take forever to lock (long enough for them to get in, strike, and get out before they can be locked onto by anything larger than a destroyer or frigate). Personally I vote for option 2, but since no stats or ideas have been yet released for them, we'll have to see.
Stealth bombers... Well, if you're going to include stealth capable combat ships (non-cov ops) you can go about it two ways: 1) +500% or so fitting requirements to warp scrambling modules on stealth bombers if they're capable of locking while cloaked - prevent the omgwtfbbq and I didn't eve see it coming. 2) Have sig radius size smaller than small drones - reflects "real world" stealth technology. They're not invisible, they just take forever to lock (long enough for them to get in, strike, and get out before they can be locked onto by anything larger than a destroyer or frigate). Personally I vote for option 2, but since no stats or ideas have been yet released for them, we'll have to see.
Aequitas Veritas on 15 March 2005
Don't see missiles mentioned in the next content patch. Will they come in a patch sooner or are you dropping the changes?
Don't see missiles mentioned in the next content patch. Will they come in a patch sooner or are you dropping the changes?
Aequitas Veritas on 15 March 2005
nm.. forgot to update the site after being afk a while :o
nm.. forgot to update the site after being afk a while :o
hitech redneck on 15 March 2005
Allince wars should be 5 times that amount. Any griefer with a battleship can make that much in 1 to 2 days. This price is opening allience up tho the 1 man alt corp griefer wars and not helping anyone but griefers
Allince wars should be 5 times that amount. Any griefer with a battleship can make that much in 1 to 2 days. This price is opening allience up tho the 1 man alt corp griefer wars and not helping anyone but griefers
dimensionZ on 15 March 2005
Wait, you are actually happy with the new sort by type ? It doesnt sort by name as second sort ! Gimme back my SORT BY type ASC, name ASC
Wait, you are actually happy with the new sort by type ? It doesnt sort by name as second sort ! Gimme back my SORT BY type ASC, name ASC
Discorporation on 15 March 2005
<3
<3
Messerschmitt facility on 15 March 2005
Cool CCP, nerf the weapons that you need AT LEAST HALF A YEAR to train them, and most considerabely, nerf the lasers, the pulse and the crystals. I played half a year, spending 3-4 months in training lasers now finding out that I done it FOR NOTHING! Amarr never had a damage bonus, they only had cap use drop only finding themself that even at a level 4 or 5 they still use more cap than any hybrids weapons so here amarr just losse a bonus for what? for not having ammo? this scuks. not to mention that many ships got bonus for capacitor recharger or capacitor capacity, why? becose they allways have problems. so amarr bonuses are just for calm down capacitor problems, loosing time in training that, while hybrids or projectiles got damage bonuses, optimals, tracking, etc. and now they also get capacitor use down. nerfing pulses, nerfing damage of crystals, lasers becoming the most usless in damage, and the most idiotic weapon becose of the capacitor fight. even now with the new assault ships, it is IMPOSIBLE TO DESTROY A MINMATAR SHIP WITH LASERS. especialy if you are forced to put in a radio. 92.5% at shields, this is just bullshit. Not to say that all turrets users needed 3-4 months to train them to be efective while missle one, in 1 month you are at full potential... So ironic when CCP says amarr 4 theh win, when they actualy are sarcastic... You can say anything about my comment, but this is my feeling. that you play with our time.
Cool CCP, nerf the weapons that you need AT LEAST HALF A YEAR to train them, and most considerabely, nerf the lasers, the pulse and the crystals. I played half a year, spending 3-4 months in training lasers now finding out that I done it FOR NOTHING! Amarr never had a damage bonus, they only had cap use drop only finding themself that even at a level 4 or 5 they still use more cap than any hybrids weapons so here amarr just losse a bonus for what? for not having ammo? this scuks. not to mention that many ships got bonus for capacitor recharger or capacitor capacity, why? becose they allways have problems. so amarr bonuses are just for calm down capacitor problems, loosing time in training that, while hybrids or projectiles got damage bonuses, optimals, tracking, etc. and now they also get capacitor use down. nerfing pulses, nerfing damage of crystals, lasers becoming the most usless in damage, and the most idiotic weapon becose of the capacitor fight. even now with the new assault ships, it is IMPOSIBLE TO DESTROY A MINMATAR SHIP WITH LASERS. especialy if you are forced to put in a radio. 92.5% at shields, this is just bullshit. Not to say that all turrets users needed 3-4 months to train them to be efective while missle one, in 1 month you are at full potential... So ironic when CCP says amarr 4 theh win, when they actualy are sarcastic... You can say anything about my comment, but this is my feeling. that you play with our time.
Rangar on 15 March 2005
So for 30M a week every griefer in EVE can (and will!) declare war on an alliance? And forget the raise of cost from the 2nd and 3rd war. Why should a griefer declare an 2nd war, if he gets MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND TARGETS with the 1st war declaration? With this change that "war"system changes even more in a pure griefer system and makes forming an alliance totally useless. If CCP doesnīt like the alliance system they started, they should simply patch it out again. Wouldnīt be a big loss. Rangar Angry Customer
So for 30M a week every griefer in EVE can (and will!) declare war on an alliance? And forget the raise of cost from the 2nd and 3rd war. Why should a griefer declare an 2nd war, if he gets MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND TARGETS with the 1st war declaration? With this change that "war"system changes even more in a pure griefer system and makes forming an alliance totally useless. If CCP doesnīt like the alliance system they started, they should simply patch it out again. Wouldnīt be a big loss. Rangar Angry Customer
Faramir on 15 March 2005
New content = new ships... come on. Give us events etc. plz... A new ship just doesn't cut it for content. Oh and a "bit" less cap use on the blasters is not going to cut it =[ It's a LOT right now. and "a little bit less then a LOT" is still a lot.
New content = new ships... come on. Give us events etc. plz... A new ship just doesn't cut it for content. Oh and a "bit" less cap use on the blasters is not going to cut it =[ It's a LOT right now. and "a little bit less then a LOT" is still a lot.
Ralitge boyter on 15 March 2005
Whooo yeah.... Even the ammo changes should not be that bad :-) Other than that any increase in the borring agent misions (way to few of the) is good.
Whooo yeah.... Even the ammo changes should not be that bad :-) Other than that any increase in the borring agent misions (way to few of the) is good.
Faramir on 15 March 2005
oh and i forgot = "A devblog will be posted soon listing the locations of the event agents that give out candidate missions. Only members of corporations that have signed up for the event can participate." what's soon mean to you guys =[
oh and i forgot = "A devblog will be posted soon listing the locations of the event agents that give out candidate missions. Only members of corporations that have signed up for the event can participate." what's soon mean to you guys =[
Lowa on 15 March 2005
O YEEEAAAH! This looks very good! There is room for improvement on some things but that you are already aware of I'm sure so I will not go down that road unless I see it missed out on the next patch! Again, very nice ideas! And Vice, your gonna have to chop off that mans finger to remove the ring I've just surgically installed. Like an implant sort off. :D And Messer; chill dude and learn how to fit your ship. You WILL still own if you have any idea what your doing. ;) Cheers, LOWA
O YEEEAAAH! This looks very good! There is room for improvement on some things but that you are already aware of I'm sure so I will not go down that road unless I see it missed out on the next patch! Again, very nice ideas! And Vice, your gonna have to chop off that mans finger to remove the ring I've just surgically installed. Like an implant sort off. :D And Messer; chill dude and learn how to fit your ship. You WILL still own if you have any idea what your doing. ;) Cheers, LOWA
Grim on 15 March 2005
when well this be deployed around?
when well this be deployed around?
Messerschmitt facility on 15 March 2005
You know what, I think il buyt railguns on my apoc. much less powergrid, I wont loose any bonnus anyway, since hybrids use enormeos little cap use, il still get a boost to my capacitor... yea why not... its already messed up evrythig...
You know what, I think il buyt railguns on my apoc. much less powergrid, I wont loose any bonnus anyway, since hybrids use enormeos little cap use, il still get a boost to my capacitor... yea why not... its already messed up evrythig...
Hezekiah Bullfrog on 15 March 2005
Let's not forget that... you're an evil man Oveur.
Let's not forget that... you're an evil man Oveur.
Selim on 15 March 2005
More events would be nice, yeah.
More events would be nice, yeah.
Ricky WIlliams on 15 March 2005
Less "let" speak in the next blog would be nice for your non teenie bopper crowd.
Less "let" speak in the next blog would be nice for your non teenie bopper crowd.
Juniper on 15 March 2005
Like everything else in EVE these days it seems, I guess the old addage of "I'll believe it when I see it." applies. Been disappointed too many times before not to take these blogs with the obligatory bag of sodium chloride I'm afraid. Good one if it actually happens though.
Like everything else in EVE these days it seems, I guess the old addage of "I'll believe it when I see it." applies. Been disappointed too many times before not to take these blogs with the obligatory bag of sodium chloride I'm afraid. Good one if it actually happens though.
LLeBRing on 15 March 2005
all i want is corp --> alliance standings PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all i want is corp --> alliance standings PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
El Yatta on 15 March 2005
Messerchmitt: Oh, you spent half a year training pulses did you? Well, every other gun takes just as long to train for, and is performing less well than the pulse. Im not sure how you can argue with this: someone who trains L. Railgun Spec takes just as long as you did to train pulse, only their guns sucked and yours rocked far too much. Why exactly should you be better? Its not difficult to understand. The only problem is that missiles are easy to train for, and the devs have promised a missile rebalance, T2 ammo, missiles and drones, which brings with it a massive skill tree for missile users. You cannot argue with this...
Messerchmitt: Oh, you spent half a year training pulses did you? Well, every other gun takes just as long to train for, and is performing less well than the pulse. Im not sure how you can argue with this: someone who trains L. Railgun Spec takes just as long as you did to train pulse, only their guns sucked and yours rocked far too much. Why exactly should you be better? Its not difficult to understand. The only problem is that missiles are easy to train for, and the devs have promised a missile rebalance, T2 ammo, missiles and drones, which brings with it a massive skill tree for missile users. You cannot argue with this...
bUBbLeS on 15 March 2005
content?
content?
EveJunkie on 15 March 2005
all this new "stuff" is all well and good but how about telling us about new dev tools you'll be adding to give us things to "do" in game... Are you even making mew tools for the event team? What about missile changes so we can fly frigs again and see mixed fleets? nm, canceling accounts soon due to boredom. Soon(tm) has got old.
all this new "stuff" is all well and good but how about telling us about new dev tools you'll be adding to give us things to "do" in game... Are you even making mew tools for the event team? What about missile changes so we can fly frigs again and see mixed fleets? nm, canceling accounts soon due to boredom. Soon(tm) has got old.
EveJunkie on 15 March 2005
Thats 4 accounts btw. 2 Corp mates doing the same with thier 4 accounts too...we're BORED! *edit: last post should have read "new tools" not "mew tools".. Dont think the event team need cats to make the game intresting.
Thats 4 accounts btw. 2 Corp mates doing the same with thier 4 accounts too...we're BORED! *edit: last post should have read "new tools" not "mew tools".. Dont think the event team need cats to make the game intresting.
bUBbLeS on 15 March 2005
cats ftw
cats ftw
bUBbLeS on 15 March 2005
OMFG space cATz invasion
OMFG space cATz invasion
bUBbLeS dONkeY on 15 March 2005
oh btw how long is soon (tm) ? can we get a REAL date that u can stick too?
oh btw how long is soon (tm) ? can we get a REAL date that u can stick too?
Laendra on 15 March 2005
Regarding Office/Factory and Lab additions. I have an idea what the answer will be, but will you be resetting the prices for these to compensate when you add them, or will you be letting them continue to go on their own?
Regarding Office/Factory and Lab additions. I have an idea what the answer will be, but will you be resetting the prices for these to compensate when you add them, or will you be letting them continue to go on their own?
PhasmaNL on 15 March 2005
Yes Corp -> Alliance standings please! AND Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings as well! :) This would not only spare us a LOT of time and frustration managing standings, but also cut down a lot on the total amount of standings in the database.
Yes Corp -> Alliance standings please! AND Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings as well! :) This would not only spare us a LOT of time and frustration managing standings, but also cut down a lot on the total amount of standings in the database.
Freezal on 15 March 2005
Very cool Oveur Thanks BTW for the Drink :) I thank you from the bottom of my heart for some love to the covert ops and stealth end of the game.
Very cool Oveur Thanks BTW for the Drink :) I thank you from the bottom of my heart for some love to the covert ops and stealth end of the game.
OzaLoni on 15 March 2005
thank u for reading between the lines of problems requests etc ... i hope its a excellent patch!... good luck!
thank u for reading between the lines of problems requests etc ... i hope its a excellent patch!... good luck!
Scylla V on 15 March 2005
How's that for hybrid love? It sucks !
How's that for hybrid love? It sucks !
Letifer Deus on 16 March 2005
"How's that for hybrid love?" emphasizing "small" in relation to cap reduction and saying grid reduction is unlikely is not what I would call hybrid love, more like lip service, but it is a start... How about doing what I suggested in one of the "Thron sux" posts and just take care of the thron and blasters right now. Up blaster damage by 10% Up blastertracking by 10% Lower megathron Mass by a substantial amount, allowing for increased accel and top speed with MWD/ABs. --OR-- up blaster damage by 10% up blaster tracking by 30% change megathron 5% tracking bonus to 10% MWD speed boost bonus.
"How's that for hybrid love?" emphasizing "small" in relation to cap reduction and saying grid reduction is unlikely is not what I would call hybrid love, more like lip service, but it is a start... How about doing what I suggested in one of the "Thron sux" posts and just take care of the thron and blasters right now. Up blaster damage by 10% Up blastertracking by 10% Lower megathron Mass by a substantial amount, allowing for increased accel and top speed with MWD/ABs. --OR-- up blaster damage by 10% up blaster tracking by 30% change megathron 5% tracking bonus to 10% MWD speed boost bonus.
ALTNAME on 16 March 2005
Are you guys focking retarded. You think this will improve pvp? More gank spots, less entryes into 0.0, easier to guard and for target practice, Agents only in 0.0, system scanning faster, corp members in space harder, = I do not play this game. I did not buy my isk, I earned it, and it is not going to be wasted, by a set of game mechanics intended to grief players. You screwed ECM to eliminate its use, except in fleet battles, where having an effective tank isnt as important for all ships. You are further destroying the ability of an individual to play this game.
Are you guys focking retarded. You think this will improve pvp? More gank spots, less entryes into 0.0, easier to guard and for target practice, Agents only in 0.0, system scanning faster, corp members in space harder, = I do not play this game. I did not buy my isk, I earned it, and it is not going to be wasted, by a set of game mechanics intended to grief players. You screwed ECM to eliminate its use, except in fleet battles, where having an effective tank isnt as important for all ships. You are further destroying the ability of an individual to play this game.
LLeBRing on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Caribardi on 16 March 2005
Most of this looks like good stuff, but I think the 30M alliance war price is a big step in the wrong direction. I make two predictions. First, empire alliance ganking will become by far the most lucrative and fun thing for every 5-member griefer alt corp. Second, large IGA will dissolve and go back to the pre-Exodus situation. White-star-on-blue tags, a redundant chat channel, mail that is largely worthless and sovereignty: are not much incentive for being the Snipe-and-Run Blue Plate Special.
Most of this looks like good stuff, but I think the 30M alliance war price is a big step in the wrong direction. I make two predictions. First, empire alliance ganking will become by far the most lucrative and fun thing for every 5-member griefer alt corp. Second, large IGA will dissolve and go back to the pre-Exodus situation. White-star-on-blue tags, a redundant chat channel, mail that is largely worthless and sovereignty:
Prothos on 16 March 2005
After thinking about it i don't think that is a wise choice to totaly remove t2 parts form agent missions. The demand is higher than the supply thats why most t2 ship are still to high priced. Even with moon mining and agent reward t2 ship prices have not dropped any. The best thing would be make the agents drop 1/2 the amount of t2 parts as it does now and see how that effecrs the game. If everthing is working take the other 1/2 out. Also t2 parts are a major part of the agent runners income compared to the other crap the agent gives you.
After thinking about it i don't think that is a wise choice to totaly remove t2 parts form agent missions. The demand is higher than the supply thats why most t2 ship are still to high priced. Even with moon mining and agent reward t2 ship prices have not dropped any. The best thing would be make the agents drop 1/2 the amount of t2 parts as it does now and see how that effecrs the game. If everthing is working take the other 1/2 out. Also t2 parts are a major part of the agent runners income compared to the other crap the agent gives you.
Caribardi on 16 March 2005
BTW the "exploit where alliances just added alt corps to incrase the cost" was rumored technically not an exploit (no comment on the lameness factor). You may want to check the petition log and clarify this with other CCP personnel, but I guess soon it will be a non-issue. You may also want to consider the problem instead of the symptom for future reference.
BTW the "exploit where alliances just added alt corps to incrase the cost" was rumored technically not an exploit (no comment on the lameness factor). You may want to check the petition log and clarify this with other CCP personnel, but I guess soon it will be a non-issue. You may also want to consider the problem instead of the symptom for future reference.
Dakath on 16 March 2005
30 minute average count on pilots in space? I thought you wanted more people moving out into 0.0. Without an ACCURATE count as of THIS MINUTE, 0.0 becomes more dangerous and less attractive than ever.
30 minute average count on pilots in space? I thought you wanted more people moving out into 0.0. Without an ACCURATE count as of THIS MINUTE, 0.0 becomes more dangerous and less attractive than ever.
Dionysus Davinci on 16 March 2005
What are you talking about? You will be able to hide your blobs. Meaning yes, you can hit a gank spot easier now but you can travel in a huge convoy blob and not get a bigger blob meeting you.
What are you talking about? You will be able to hide your blobs. Meaning yes, you can hit a gank spot easier now but you can travel in a huge convoy blob and not get a bigger blob meeting you.
Adam C on 16 March 2005
30 minute average count should be based on some sort of distance ie region or jumps. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=161227
30 minute average count should be based on some sort of distance ie region or jumps. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=161227
Redeol on 16 March 2005
Oveur, can it be our little SIKRET ? :) in addition to nerfing pulse lasers etc, im ammar flyer also, i think what ammar BS needs is primaraly a added range bonus, that would be quit nice, or atleast the guns or a skill so that they give a better slightly range i would really enjoy that :)
Oveur, can it be our little SIKRET ? :) in addition to nerfing pulse lasers etc, im ammar flyer also, i think what ammar BS needs is primaraly a added range bonus, that would be quit nice, or atleast the guns or a skill so that they give a better slightly range i would really enjoy that :)
Messerschmitt facility on 16 March 2005
Amarr bonuses are almost only for capacitor, nothing else... Anyway, as CCP allways tell themselfs, Missles 4 theh win. Cant wait for the 750 dmg torpedo. Defenders? defends do NOTHING. tested them already.
Amarr bonuses are almost only for capacitor, nothing else... Anyway, as CCP allways tell themselfs, Missles 4 theh win. Cant wait for the 750 dmg torpedo. Defenders? defends do NOTHING. tested them already.
Exavier Macbeth on 16 March 2005
well this should prove interesting in general...
well this should prove interesting in general...
LLeBRing on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Spy4Hire on 16 March 2005
Don't cut the ammo range changes. Currently with 5 or 6 ammo types to switch between during a closing engagements is pain in the butt - even for Amarr. Better to just have 3 ranges with 2 types of ammo for each range category. Each ammo focuses on a different area of that ammo's general damage class (i.e. for Amarr. 1 ammo focuses more on EM, the other Thermal). This will make ammos a whole lot easier to deal with. And free up cargo space!
Don't cut the ammo range changes. Currently with 5 or 6 ammo types to switch between during a closing engagements is pain in the butt - even for Amarr. Better to just have 3 ranges with 2 types of ammo for each range category. Each ammo focuses on a different area of that ammo's general damage class (i.e. for Amarr. 1 ammo focuses more on EM, the other Thermal). This will make ammos a whole lot easier to deal with. And free up cargo space!
ManOfHonor on 16 March 2005
ahh, BTW '- Increase number of chokepoints in said deep space regions' thats not increasing 0.0 enterance camps, its decreasing them, an moving them into 0.0
ahh, BTW '- Increase number of chokepoints in said deep space regions' thats not increasing 0.0 enterance camps, its decreasing them, an moving them into 0.0
ManOfHonor on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings whoohooo!!! NERF THE SIKRIT!! AltName- ' less entryes into 0.0, easier to guard and for target practice, Agents only in 0.0' you f****ng newb, read ****, read!! noone said less 0.0 entrys, the gates routes r jus gona change, in a LONG time! there are plenty of 0.0 entrys already actualy, u jus gotta look for them, an maby travel through low sec to find gates less populated, even gates with lots of trafic rnt camped 12 hrs a day!! an it said agents in 0.0 will be more profitable because of low sec stat, there will still be 1.0 - .1 agents... OMFG 'up blaster damage by 10% up blaster tracking by 30% change megathron 5% tracking bonus to 10% MWD speed boost bonus.' you gallente nutter.... we need Proj love!! more of it!! we need cruiser love!! more of it!! we need sleath bomber info leaks!! more of it!! we need one more type of cruiser!! more of em!! we need two more tpyes of BSs!! more ofem!! we need tanking gimping!! less of the tanks!! we want battles to last longer!! somehow... without ruining it all (PvP 4tw) we want Small, Medium, Large, an Meta Auxilary Power Cores!! (w00t 4tw) (cruise an BS mean tiers of them, not elites, jus T1s, like Tier 3 BSs)
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings whoohooo!!! NERF THE SIKRIT!! AltName- ' less entryes into 0.0, easier to guard and for target practice, Agents only in 0.0' you f****ng newb, read ****, read!! noone said less 0.0 entrys, the gates routes r jus gona change, in a LONG time! there are plenty of 0.0 entrys already actualy, u jus gotta look for them, an maby travel through low sec to find gates less populated, even gates with lots of trafic rnt camped 12 hrs a day!! an it said agents in 0.0 will be more profitable because of low sec stat, there will still be 1.0 - .1 agents... OMFG 'up blaster damage by 10% up blaster tracking by 30% change megathron 5% tracking bonus to 10% MWD speed boost bonus.' you gallente nutter.... we need Proj love!! more of it!! we need cruiser love!! more of it!! we need sleath bomber info leaks!! more of it!! we need one more type of cruiser!! more of em!! we need two more tpyes of BSs!! more ofem!! we need tanking gimping!! less of the tanks!! we want battles to last longer!! somehow... without ruining it all (PvP 4tw) we want Small, Medium, Large, an Meta Auxilary Power Cores!! (w00t 4tw) (cruise an BS mean tiers of them, not elites, jus T1s, like Tier 3 BSs)
ALTNAME on 16 March 2005
Lol. The devs have stated that less access to 0.0 will result after the route revamp. The intent is to make all combat occur at entrances, because it places less work on pirates, which is the intent. CCP are pirates. Just try and order some Quafe, I dare ya.
Lol. The devs have stated that less access to 0.0 will result after the route revamp. The intent is to make all combat occur at entrances, because it places less work on pirates, which is the intent. CCP are pirates. Just try and order some Quafe, I dare ya.
Alexander Kiernov on 16 March 2005
though i have only looked over this patch briefly on SiSi, i doubt that small pvp corporations would survive with the EW changes... why? because you'll need at least 2 scramblers to pin down any ship in the new patch afaik.. YAY4TW for stealth bombers tho! (wtf are those anyway lol)
though i have only looked over this patch briefly on SiSi, i doubt that small pvp corporations would survive with the EW changes... why? because you'll need at least 2 scramblers to pin down any ship in the new patch afaik.. YAY4TW for stealth bombers tho! (wtf are those anyway lol)
Nomen Nescio on 16 March 2005
Combat: Your brand new shiny stealth bobmer hit raven FOF cruise missle for bye-bye-uber-pricy-bobmber_no_insurace damage. Combat: your FOF cruise missle fired on something and hit someone for hopefully great damage. :) I wound't add any new ships TOGETHER with new EW and BEFORE missle changes and new ammo.
Combat: Your brand new shiny stealth bobmer hit raven FOF cruise missle for bye-bye-uber-pricy-bobmber_no_insurace damage. Combat: your FOF cruise missle fired on something and hit someone for hopefully great damage. :) I wound't add any new ships TOGETHER with new EW and BEFORE missle changes and new ammo.
LLeBRing on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings One of the most needed features in all of EVE, and yet still not even on that list, and not even a hint as to whether or not it's being worked on.
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings One of the most needed features in all of EVE, and yet still not even on that list, and not even a hint as to whether or not it's being worked on.
Messerschmitt facility on 16 March 2005
Im asking CCP only this: Do they find normal that minmatar AF and HAC is practicaly invulnerable against lasers? Is it normal that a class of ships be invulnerable against a certain type of lasers? I dont give a heck if they are more vulnerable to other type of weapons, I lost 4 months to train lasers not hybrid or projectile, and I dont want to loose AGAIN 4 months to train somthing else than laser ONLY to destroy the damn minmatar elites. I await your answer CCP
Im asking CCP only this: Do they find normal that minmatar AF and HAC is practicaly invulnerable against lasers? Is it normal that a class of ships be invulnerable against a certain type of lasers? I dont give a heck if they are more vulnerable to other type of weapons, I lost 4 months to train lasers not hybrid or projectile, and I dont want to loose AGAIN 4 months to train somthing else than laser ONLY to destroy the damn minmatar elites. I await your answer CCP
Caribardi on 16 March 2005
Aren't the caldari assault ships pretty much the same versus hybrid weapons. Caldari vs. gallente, therm/kinetic resist vs. blasters? Do you see a pattern developing here? It makes perfect sense to me that minmatar tech would focus on defense to counter their arch-nemesis faction. You may as well ask them to nerf angels so lasers don't suck against them while you are at it.
Aren't the caldari assault ships pretty much the same versus hybrid weapons. Caldari vs. gallente, therm/kinetic resist vs. blasters? Do you see a pattern developing here? It makes perfect sense to me that minmatar tech would focus on defense to counter their arch-nemesis faction. You may as well ask them to nerf angels so lasers don't suck against them while you are at it.
Messerschmitt facility on 16 March 2005
Yea then why amarr dont have the same against minmatar huh? against counter arch-enemy?? oh maybe becose they got evrything in damage, so they can still do a moderate damage than like us that we can barely scrach theyr paint.
Yea then why amarr dont have the same against minmatar huh? against counter arch-enemy?? oh maybe becose they got evrything in damage, so they can still do a moderate damage than like us that we can barely scrach theyr paint.
Deadzone on 16 March 2005
I'm sorry for all you pulse lasers users, but you KNOW as well as the rest of us they were WAY overpowered, especially for the range you were using them for. May I remind you that PULSE weapons were meant to be the equivilant to blasters and autocannons- which I may remind you are CLOSE RANGE combat weapons, NOT 140km sniping guns. Those actions are reserved for -GASP- beam turrets, like, oh..I don't know...taychons maybe?? Pulse= low range, fast firing, less cap usage. Beam= long range, slower firing, more dmg. What is it you don't get about this simple equation? Man, only if our Minny autocannons could snipe out to 100km+...wouldn't THAT be a kicker!! :P
I'm sorry for all you pulse lasers users, but you KNOW as well as the rest of us they were WAY overpowered, especially for the range you were using them for. May I remind you that PULSE weapons were meant to be the equivilant to blasters and autocannons- which I may remind you are CLOSE RANGE combat weapons, NOT 140km sniping guns. Those actions are reserved for -GASP- beam turrets, like, oh..I don't know...taychons maybe?? Pulse= low range, fast firing, less cap usage. Beam= long range, slower firing, more dmg. What is it you don't get about this simple equation? Man, only if our Minny autocannons could snipe out to 100km+...wouldn't THAT be a kicker!! :P
Jeebs on 16 March 2005
"Pulse= low range, fast firing, less cap usage. Beam= long range, slower firing, more dmg. What is it you don't get about this simple equation?" the fact that the tachyons suck for the most parT?
"Pulse= low range, fast firing, less cap usage. Beam= long range, slower firing, more dmg. What is it you don't get about this simple equation?" the fact that the tachyons suck for the most parT?
gameforce on 16 March 2005
ah thank you Dev's this is going to be a verry good patch ;-)
ah thank you Dev's this is going to be a verry good patch ;-)
Hobblah on 16 March 2005
30 mil for a nearly free pirating pass to all empire? Efect of this is that Empire wars will last too long for my liking and too many small pirate corps declare "wars" just to pirate.
30 mil for a nearly free pirating pass to all empire? Efect of this is that Empire wars will last too long for my liking and too many small pirate corps declare "wars" just to pirate.
HDCamper Itsim on 16 March 2005
Respectfully, overall looks disappointing. - Why stop here? Lets not. Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices. um why just empire ? why not add the additional offices and factories to the conquerables in 0.0? Surely that wouldn't kill ya. Sorry the current cost of labslots is worth a podding. Send someone out in a non uber ship to take a beating. Send the agents in the stations outside every now and then. They need to get shot occasionally. Yeah for 44 new missions. Hopefully someone with much better grammatical skill then me checks them for accuracy.. :( tired of being offered something Im not recieving. How can only some of the agent runners get a nerf? Is there a chart on how only "some" will get affected? continued
Respectfully, overall looks disappointing. - Why stop here? Lets not. Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices. um why just empire ? why not add the additional offices and factories to the conquerables in 0.0? Surely that wouldn't kill ya. Sorry the current cost of labslots is worth a podding. Send someone out in a non uber ship to take a beating. Send the agents in the stations outside every now and then. They need to get shot occasionally. Yeah for 44 new missions. Hopefully someone with much better grammatical skill then me checks them for accuracy.. :( tired of being offered something Im not recieving. How can only some of the agent runners get a nerf? Is there a chart on how only "some" will get affected? continued
HDCamper Itsim on 16 March 2005
respectfully continued War cost of 30 million what an absolute joke. Sorry, it just is. EW changes - um if the dampners was what was broken why not just fix the dampners? Other EW changes are um abit overboard. Nerfing pulses for range - um turn up concords range at the gates. Someone wants to fit the ships for range. Good for them Fix tracking its just not right to miss really large asteroids with projectiles at optimal +|- range - they arent really moving... Corp and Alliance tax models? Any fixes coming with those ever? 30 minute average time for map update - sigh - put the other map fixes in to be able to get better intel first. The map is pretty bad the way it is. How about something simple.... Last login timestamp for corp members... sooner Ship hitpoints - please... soooner. Fix market scammers ... allow someone to affect their seller standings and allow some visual colors to be identified with risk of doing business with them. I guess at some point perhaps all alliance tasks will be done on one server not ingame? Alliances aren't getting any love. Corp functions still will be done mostly out of the game as well - on someones personal forums? Perhaps the new ship is what was needed... sorry sarcastic. Are the joves attacking yet? Sorry for the neg vibes... You get to hear your share for sure. GL
respectfully continued War cost of 30 million what an absolute joke. Sorry, it just is. EW changes - um if the dampners was what was broken why not just fix the dampners? Other EW changes are um abit overboard. Nerfing pulses for range - um turn up concords range at the gates. Someone wants to fit the ships for range. Good for them Fix tracking its just not right to miss really large asteroids with projectiles at optimal +|- range - they arent really moving... Corp and Alliance tax models? Any fixes coming with those ever? 30 minute average time for map update - sigh - put the other map fixes in to be able to get better intel first. The map is pretty bad the way it is. How about something simple.... Last login timestamp for corp members... sooner Ship hitpoints - please... soooner. Fix market scammers ... allow someone to affect their seller standings and allow some visual colors to be identified with risk of doing business with them. I guess at some point perhaps all alliance tasks will be done on one server not ingame? Alliances aren't getting any love. Corp functions still will be done mostly out of the game as well - on someones personal forums? Perhaps the new ship is what was needed... sorry sarcastic. Are the joves attacking yet? Sorry for the neg vibes... You get to hear your share for sure. GL
HDCamper Itsim on 16 March 2005
could add some type of counter to know how much your allowed to enter....
could add some type of counter to know how much your allowed to enter....
ParMizaN on 16 March 2005
o.0 Oveur i think I love you
o.0 Oveur i think I love you
Luzerus on 16 March 2005
30 mill to declare war on an alliance, sorry ccp but if thats gonna happen than its a bad day for you, get your stuff together and move out your rooms cuz you wont get to pay them very long anymore. Suggestion, up the initial cost to 50-100 mill a week plus an increase like in the office, factory rent, like 5% per day. So that way people that really want to fight can fight by getting the needed funds, griefers well they can grief but if they wanna have fun having 5k+ targets to shoot at, well they gonna pay for it. IT SHOULD BE A BENEFIT TO BE AN ALLIAnCE NOT A BURDEN!!!!!! other changes we'll have to see how they turn out ingame.
30 mill to declare war on an alliance, sorry ccp but if thats gonna happen than its a bad day for you, get your stuff together and move out your rooms cuz you wont get to pay them very long anymore. Suggestion, up the initial cost to 50-100 mill a week plus an increase like in the office, factory rent, like 5% per day. So that way people that really want to fight can fight by getting the needed funds, griefers well they can grief but if they wanna have fun having 5k+ targets to shoot at, well they gonna pay for it. IT SHOULD BE A BENEFIT TO BE AN ALLIAnCE NOT A BURDEN!!!!!! other changes we'll have to see how they turn out ingame.
Dufas on 16 March 2005
so now they decide to increase office/lab space HAHAHAHAHAH after rent has spiraled out of control..ppl complaining about 3mill per lab slot rent..offices costing 20mill...ppl asking for this to be done a year ago they finally get off there arse and do it...congrats guys your on the ball
so now they decide to increase office/lab space HAHAHAHAHAH after rent has spiraled out of control..ppl complaining about 3mill per lab slot rent..offices costing 20mill...ppl asking for this to be done a year ago they finally get off there arse and do it...congrats guys your on the ball
L'Kor on 16 March 2005
Wow, lots of nice things to play with :).
Wow, lots of nice things to play with :).
Friday 007 on 16 March 2005
Stealth bomber....What????? looking..... Info Not available. DOH!
Stealth bomber....What????? looking..... Info Not available. DOH!
Steel Rage on 16 March 2005
CCP is trying to destroy 0.0 alliances outright.
CCP is trying to destroy 0.0 alliances outright.
Chin Chin on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase oh and maybe and option in the POS Alliance can USE w00t who would have thunk it??!? COMPLETLY DIFFERENT!!!!!
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase oh and maybe and option in the POS Alliance can USE w00t who would have thunk it??!? COMPLETLY DIFFERENT!!!!!
Gunship on 16 March 2005
CCP must above all make it worth entering 0.0 space ATM the level 4 agent runners and T2 manufactures are winning the game without any risk what-so-ever. All 0.0 space is atm is for mining high end and safespot. it suxx :(
CCP must above all make it worth entering 0.0 space ATM the level 4 agent runners and T2 manufactures are winning the game without any risk what-so-ever. All 0.0 space is atm is for mining high end and safespot. it suxx :(
Oveur on 16 March 2005
ALTNAME: The entries will increase not decrease. That's clearly stated in my blog about the matter.
ALTNAME: The entries will increase not decrease. That's clearly stated in my blog about the matter.
Oveur on 16 March 2005
Messerschmitt: See http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=157189 for your answers.
Saying your 4 months of training (Which all gunners go through) is a waste is saying that Hybrid and Projectile training is an even more waste. Obviously, this needs to be corrected. You have had the pleasure of using one of the most overpowered weapons in EVE for quite some time, I think that's reward enough for those 4 months which the other gunners did not get - and still they trained the same amount as you.
Messerschmitt: See http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=157189 for your answers.
Saying your 4 months of training (Which all gunners go through) is a waste is saying that Hybrid and Projectile training is an even more waste. Obviously, this needs to be corrected. You have had the pleasure of using one of the most overpowered weapons in EVE for quite some time, I think that's reward enough for those 4 months which the other gunners did not get - and still they trained the same amount as you.
Renttu on 16 March 2005
Oveur since you're reading atm. Can you give any info how much in % difference between 1.0 and 0.0 agents will be and how its scaled? I have been doing agent missions with agent at 0.4 forever thats why I am asking.
Oveur since you're reading atm. Can you give any info how much in % difference between 1.0 and 0.0 agents will be and how its scaled? I have been doing agent missions with agent at 0.4 forever thats why I am asking.
Oveur on 16 March 2005
HDCamper: We are only increasing in Empire since 0.0 and Conquerable stations rely their defenses on owning these resources and not allowing enemies to set up outposts. We were not going to disrupt that model.
The Agents that are nerfed are the ones in 1.0 that have high effective quality. The worst place to do agents is in high security. The formula was not taking this into acccount. If you are around 0.5-0.6 you should not notice any difference. Again, this only affects agent reward, bonus reward and loyalty points, not the bigger factors like Bounty and Loot.
Regarding war costs, we did a more recent analysis of active war costs on TQ based on some early comments here yesterday and increased it to 2M and 50M respectively. Blog has been updated with this information.
HDCamper: We are only increasing in Empire since 0.0 and Conquerable stations rely their defenses on owning these resources and not allowing enemies to set up outposts. We were not going to disrupt that model.
The Agents that are nerfed are the ones in 1.0 that have high effective quality. The worst place to do agents is in high security. The formula was not taking this into acccount. If you are around 0.5-0.6 you should not notice any difference. Again, this only affects agent reward, bonus reward and loyalty points, not the bigger factors like Bounty and Loot.
Regarding war costs, we did a more recent analysis of active war costs on TQ based on some early comments here yesterday and increased it to 2M and 50M respectively. Blog has been updated with this information.
Oveur on 16 March 2005
Renttu: You should probably see an slight increase if you are working in 0.4
Renttu: You should probably see an slight increase if you are working in 0.4
Thinai on 16 March 2005
Nerfing the pulse lasers? They are already useless against heavier armor tanked NPC's. If you nerf the pulses without boosting the beams in one patch you'll hang a lot of Amarrs out dry. There is already trouble taking out an armor tanked NPC with 6 x pulse and 2 x siege with the correct torp type. And that's with lvl4 on all gunnery skills. Please wait with this nerf until you have a proper boost for the beams.
Nerfing the pulse lasers? They are already useless against heavier armor tanked NPC's. If you nerf the pulses without boosting the beams in one patch you'll hang a lot of Amarrs out dry. There is already trouble taking out an armor tanked NPC with 6 x pulse and 2 x siege with the correct torp type. And that's with lvl4 on all gunnery skills. Please wait with this nerf until you have a proper boost for the beams.
Renttu on 16 March 2005
Good news then :)
Good news then :)
JimmySav on 16 March 2005
OVEUR- WIll patch fix STATION DOOM LAG when they are attacked. This is a huge factor in 0 sec PVP?
OVEUR- WIll patch fix STATION DOOM LAG when they are attacked. This is a huge factor in 0 sec PVP?
Bsport on 16 March 2005
WOW this a big patch
WOW this a big patch
Discorporation on 16 March 2005
I need Stealth bombers.
I need Stealth bombers.
Redeol on 16 March 2005
/me stealthbombs Oveur from behind oO
/me stealthbombs Oveur from behind oO
Lok Ta'car on 16 March 2005
:D Me Likie!
:D Me Likie!
Dian Cecht on 16 March 2005
"Pilots in Space will now show a 30 minute average count." Before this is brought in it would be nice if claimed constellations are lit for their owners. Life for POS owners is hard enough as it is. Killing the map means POS owners won't know potential hostiles are heading towards them until it is too late. If you want people to move to 0.0 and stay there, bring in the POS factory sooner rather than later, its the only essential component missing.
"Pilots in Space will now show a 30 minute average count." Before this is brought in it would be nice if claimed constellations are lit for their owners. Life for POS owners is hard enough as it is. Killing the map means POS owners won't know potential hostiles are heading towards them until it is too late. If you want people to move to 0.0 and stay there, bring in the POS factory sooner rather than later, its the only essential component missing.
Rangar on 16 March 2005
Hi Oveur, what about the 30M per alliance war? This will raise griefing to a new highwatermark and force even more of our members out of the game than we already have lost due to the constant empire "wars". As soon as their subscriptions have runned out, we have lost them forever.
Hi Oveur, what about the 30M per alliance war? This will raise griefing to a new highwatermark and force even more of our members out of the game than we already have lost due to the constant empire "wars". As soon as their subscriptions have runned out, we have lost them forever.
KIAHicks on 16 March 2005
All in all this sounds like a very promising patch. Regarding the ecm changes, I'm still 50/50 on them, but I do have faith in the devs so I'm quite looking forward to seeing how the changes effect combat tactics. As for the 30 min map change, thats great news, especially if it is easy to tweak. I think 30mins is a good compromise until POS's get a limited realtime feed of say the surrounding systems within 1 jump, or 2 jumps if you use more of your fuel to power it, or 3 (you get the picture :P) Maybe this will open the field for relay stations with limited defenses that can be used to warn of coming attacks, either because you noticed it on your map, or the station doesn't seem to be there anymore :P Once some form of pos module is in place that people can use/check then the time may even be worth increasing further, but as you say thats more of a wait and see how it goes. Anyhow, all in all its a patch I'm very much looking forward to and it isn't often I feel that way :)
All in all this sounds like a very promising patch. Regarding the ecm changes, I'm still 50/50 on them, but I do have faith in the devs so I'm quite looking forward to seeing how the changes effect combat tactics. As for the 30 min map change, thats great news, especially if it is easy to tweak. I think 30mins is a good compromise until POS's get a limited realtime feed of say the surrounding systems within 1 jump, or 2 jumps if you use more of your fuel to power it, or 3 (you get the picture :P) Maybe this will open the field for relay stations with limited defenses that can be used to warn of coming attacks, either because you noticed it on your map, or the station doesn't seem to be there anymore :P Once some form of pos module is in place that people can use/check then the time may even be worth increasing further, but as you say thats more of a wait and see how it goes. Anyhow, all in all its a patch I'm very much looking forward to and it isn't often I feel that way :)
ManOfHonor on 16 March 2005
' Nerfing the pulse lasers? They are already useless against heavier armor tanked NPC's. If you nerf the pulses without boosting the beams in one patch you'll hang a lot of Amarrs out dry. There is already trouble taking out an armor tanked NPC with 6 x pulse and 2 x siege with the correct torp type. And that's with lvl4 on all gunnery skills. Please wait with this nerf until you have a proper boost for the beams.' what are you on? crack and basic medium pulse lasers?? gank apoc + NPCs= dead NPCs tank apoc + NPCs= dead NPCs, a bit later, but yr never in risk an yeah, i have experience with this... some NPCs just have high EM an Therm res, you have to counter this by finding dif NPCs, gettin dif guns, or serving yourself a nice bowl of STFU cause u wana do EM an Therm dmg to rats with high EM an Therm res
' Nerfing the pulse lasers? They are already useless against heavier armor tanked NPC's. If you nerf the pulses without boosting the beams in one patch you'll hang a lot of Amarrs out dry. There is already trouble taking out an armor tanked NPC with 6 x pulse and 2 x siege with the correct torp type. And that's with lvl4 on all gunnery skills. Please wait with this nerf until you have a proper boost for the beams.' what are you on? crack and basic medium pulse lasers?? gank apoc + NPCs= dead NPCs tank apoc + NPCs= dead NPCs, a bit later, but yr never in risk an yeah, i have experience with this... some NPCs just have high EM an Therm res, you have to counter this by finding dif NPCs, gettin dif guns, or serving yourself a nice bowl of STFU cause u wana do EM an Therm dmg to rats with high EM an Therm res
Paw Sandberg on 16 March 2005
still no corp tax :-(
still no corp tax :-(
Razor Jaxx on 16 March 2005
Excellent news, congrats CCP for bringing us these changes. I do hope the new Prop & EW makes it to TQ. The new approach is great fun and will push people to use their imagination when setting up their ships. Oveur, what will ultimately decide if the E&PW changes make it on TQ, and when will you finalize a decision? Cheers.
Excellent news, congrats CCP for bringing us these changes. I do hope the new Prop & EW makes it to TQ. The new approach is great fun and will push people to use their imagination when setting up their ships. Oveur, what will ultimately decide if the E&PW changes make it on TQ, and when will you finalize a decision? Cheers.
Decairn on 16 March 2005
Wow that's a lot of changes. Sounds like a recipe for disaster! I am looking forward to it.
Wow that's a lot of changes. Sounds like a recipe for disaster! I am looking forward to it.
Rangar on 16 March 2005
Ok, sorry, hadnīt seen the raise from 30M to 50M. But doesnīt make a big difference anyway. The actually nearly useless alliance system (alliance mail = spam mail, no alliance standings, no advantages at all except that tiny blue star on the overview, if you meet an alliance mate) will become obsolete after the next patch. Be prepared to see the ingame alliances vanish. XETIC will be one of them. We will go back to the pre alliance system, which wasnīt perfect, but we didnīt have to pay a lot of ISK for it and didnīt had griefers with the ability to attack more than 5000 pilots with a single war declaration at the cost of some peanuts.
Ok, sorry, hadnīt seen the raise from 30M to 50M. But doesnīt make a big difference anyway. The actually nearly useless alliance system (alliance mail = spam mail, no alliance standings, no advantages at all except that tiny blue star on the overview, if you meet an alliance mate) will become obsolete after the next patch. Be prepared to see the ingame alliances vanish. XETIC will be one of them. We will go back to the pre alliance system, which wasnīt perfect, but we didnīt have to pay a lot of ISK for it and didnīt had griefers with the ability to attack more than 5000 pilots with a single war declaration at the cost of some peanuts.
nept on 16 March 2005
Why isn,t the autopatch working?really awkward that?
Why isn,t the autopatch working?really awkward that?
Cardassius on 16 March 2005
Why don't you guys make alliance vs alliance and corp vs corp wars cause corp vs alliance is just too easy and cheap. We pay more for our offices per week than a war costs bit weird isn't it?
Why don't you guys make alliance vs alliance and corp vs corp wars cause corp vs alliance is just too easy and cheap. We pay more for our offices per week than a war costs bit weird isn't it?
LLeBRing on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase roles
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase roles
Amos Sommers on 16 March 2005
OMG <3 OVEUR give us some Dreadnaugh lovin :P
OMG <3 OVEUR give us some Dreadnaugh lovin :P
Laendra on 16 March 2005
How about changing the size of repackaged containers to actually be smaller than assembled sizes (as it should be), so they can actually be moved around...and possibly throw in some container BPCs
How about changing the size of repackaged containers to actually be smaller than assembled sizes (as it should be), so they can actually be moved around...and possibly throw in some container BPCs
Kiithnaras on 16 March 2005
Must agree with someone's post somewhere up in the mess: ammo does need more flexible ranges, at least +/- 25% (Proton and Nuclear = 1.25, Phased Plasma and Fusion = 0.75; Tungsten and Iridium = 1.25, Plutonium and Uranium = 0.75)
Must agree with someone's post somewhere up in the mess: ammo does need more flexible ranges, at least +/- 25% (Proton and Nuclear = 1.25, Phased Plasma and Fusion = 0.75; Tungsten and Iridium = 1.25, Plutonium and Uranium = 0.75)
Kiithnaras on 16 March 2005
...and as I stated before in the ammo blog, titanium sabot s should do 6 kinetic and 3 explosive, not vice versa; furthermore, I have to agree with others that the distribution of thermal and kinetic damages in hybrid ammo should be more even and less biased toward thermal.
...and as I stated before in the ammo blog, titanium sabot s should do 6 kinetic and 3 explosive, not vice versa; furthermore, I have to agree with others that the distribution of thermal and kinetic damages in hybrid ammo should be more even and less biased toward thermal.
Chin Chin on 16 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase roles and oh oh how about this one to make alliance worth while, POS avial by control tower settings for the alliance to use it. Who woulda thunk it?!?!
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase Can Config Starbase roles and oh oh how about this one to make alliance worth while, POS avial by control tower settings for the alliance to use it. Who woulda thunk it?!?!
Aelius on 16 March 2005
Oveur. Are R&D agents in empire beeing nerfed along with the others? Will their EQ drop along with RP's/day? Another question. Do you plan to introduce POS to 0.5 and above with an Empire(NPC)Tax per week? Regards ;)
Oveur. Are R&D agents in empire beeing nerfed along with the others? Will their EQ drop along with RP's/day? Another question. Do you plan to introduce POS to 0.5 and above with an Empire(NPC)Tax per week? Regards ;)
Reatu Krentor on 16 March 2005
Another thought i had was concerning hybrid weapons. Why not change the damage it does to thermal (main as suggested) and secondary explosive... I would write it all down as to why but i can't find any decent arguments atm(i'm sure there are some [)]), except for thermal and explosive might make more sense for hybrids(at least for blasters) as hybrids shoot plasma which is very very hot and ver very explosive :)
Another thought i had was concerning hybrid weapons. Why not change the damage it does to thermal (main as suggested) and secondary explosive... I would write it all down as to why but i can't find any decent arguments atm(i'm sure there are some [)]), except for thermal and explosive might make more sense for hybrids(at least for blasters) as hybrids shoot plasma which is very very hot and ver very explosive :)
Reatu Krentor on 16 March 2005
PS It seems to have cut the top part of my previous post so here's the rest [:/] hmm too bad ammo changes are candidate for getting cut, for projectiles it could be beneficial to keep the change, maybe not for hybrids imho. Maybe it could be 4 ranges though as there are 8 ammo types, like 1.5, 1.15, 0.85, 0.5 and then 2 ammo at each range. Carb lead and nuclear -> 1.5; proton and dpu -> 1.15; Tsab and fusion -> 0.85; phasedp and emp -> 0.5. this would prolly need some changing of damage types on some( fusion is one since tsab does same damages atm, tsab prolly could be retooled again towards kinetic as it was, nuclear could stay thermal explosive as is suggested), would be a nice spread of damages and be more than 3 range options.
PS It seems to have cut the top part of my previous post so here's the rest [:/] hmm too bad ammo changes are candidate for getting cut, for projectiles it could be beneficial to keep the change, maybe not for hybrids imho. Maybe it could be 4 ranges though as there are 8 ammo types, like 1.5, 1.15, 0.85, 0.5 and then 2 ammo at each range. Carb lead and nuclear -> 1.5; proton and dpu -> 1.15; Tsab and fusion -> 0.85; phasedp and emp -> 0.5. this would prolly need some changing of damage types on some( fusion is one since tsab does same damages atm, tsab prolly could be retooled again towards kinetic as it was, nuclear could stay thermal explosive as is suggested), would be a nice spread of damages and be more than 3 range options.
Nehemiah Bullfrog on 16 March 2005
"Let's not for get.." followed by, "something I know very well has never been mentioned before"
*drool...*
*laughs* and it isn't even the 1st yet.
Lo3d3R on 16 March 2005
bring back Risc vs Reward, in other words, bring more reward to 0.0
bring back Risc vs Reward, in other words, bring more reward to 0.0
Messerschmitt facility on 16 March 2005
Very well, nerf the pulse lasers tho the beams suck also and they BOTH CONSUME POWERGRID LIKE CRAZY!!!. I cant even put 4 Beams (tho it can fit 5) on maller and no more capacitor! Maybe the real thing that upset me is the nerfing of the lenses. Now they are idiotic, you put the big base on EM and very little thermal, this is a major handicap. you cant do almost anything throught the armor and especialy vs those minmatar. Only if lasers would have the main on thermal, minmatar HAC and AF have thermal resistance as a second. would give a chance
Very well, nerf the pulse lasers tho the beams suck also and they BOTH CONSUME POWERGRID LIKE CRAZY!!!. I cant even put 4 Beams (tho it can fit 5) on maller and no more capacitor! Maybe the real thing that upset me is the nerfing of the lenses. Now they are idiotic, you put the big base on EM and very little thermal, this is a major handicap. you cant do almost anything throught the armor and especialy vs those minmatar. Only if lasers would have the main on thermal, minmatar HAC and AF have thermal resistance as a second. would give a chance
Gierling on 16 March 2005
I'm concerned that no matter what the number is your going to find griefer corps that can pay it. I think its time that we eliminate alliance wars. Corps can fight in empire, but Alliances are suppossedly sovereignties. They should be fought in 0.0, where they claim their space. You can be damn sure that if CCP declared war on Canada and started chasing Canadian citizens around and beating them up in Iceland the Icelandic cops would put a stop to it. It currently makes little sense to join an alliance, the loot off 2 battleships is enough to pay for Alliance war costs. Its a giant kick me sign.
I'm concerned that no matter what the number is your going to find griefer corps that can pay it. I think its time that we eliminate alliance wars. Corps can fight in empire, but Alliances are suppossedly sovereignties. They should be fought in 0.0, where they claim their space. You can be damn sure that if CCP declared war on Canada and started chasing Canadian citizens around and beating them up in Iceland the Icelandic cops would put a stop to it. It currently makes little sense to join an alliance, the loot off 2 battleships is enough to pay for Alliance war costs. Its a giant kick me sign.
ManOfHonor on 16 March 2005
the problems with griefers #1- ppl whine about em instead of hunting them down and killing them (my favorite solution) #2- griefers can hide so easily (the bane to my favorite solution) the ultimate solution- Alliances are nations, governments of themselves, powerful entities... if you attack a allaince, you are a enemy to it, if you hide in, say, amarr teritory, and amarr stations, the alliance can tell the amarrians to kick you outa their stations- OR ELSE. in the intrests of good politics with a powerful, rich allaince, the amarrians would do what they say, and the griefers would no longer be allowed to dock in amarr-faction owned stations... however, this works a couple ways, the minmatar and gallente dont exactly like the amarr slavers, so they WILL allow the griefers to dock, and may even empose a penalty on alliance members of a alliance that has seeked 'favor' with the amarr... yr allaince could only seek favor with one faction at a time, and you would have to wait 1 week after ending favor with one faction to gain favor with another.. this is jus a rough system, im sure theres plenty of other things about it that can go wrong, and need polish, but i beleive a system somewhat like this may work....
the problems with griefers #1- ppl whine about em instead of hunting them down and killing them (my favorite solution) #2- griefers can hide so easily (the bane to my favorite solution) the ultimate solution- Alliances are nations, governments of themselves, powerful entities... if you attack a allaince, you are a enemy to it, if you hide in, say, amarr teritory, and amarr stations, the alliance can tell the amarrians to kick you outa their stations- OR ELSE. in the intrests of good politics with a powerful, rich allaince, the amarrians would do what they say, and the griefers would no longer be allowed to dock in amarr-faction owned stations... however, this works a couple ways, the minmatar and gallente dont exactly like the amarr slavers, so they WILL allow the griefers to dock, and may even empose a penalty on alliance members of a alliance that has seeked 'favor' with the amarr... yr allaince could only seek favor with one faction at a time, and you would have to wait 1 week after ending favor with one faction to gain favor with another.. this is jus a rough system, im sure theres plenty of other things about it that can go wrong, and need polish, but i beleive a system somewhat like this may work....
Maeve Linn on 16 March 2005
great! now wtf is a stealth bobmer?!
great! now wtf is a stealth bobmer?!
Shidhe on 16 March 2005
Well done CCP! You get a 95% agreement here - good stuff as far as it goes. And I await the new content and NWO with interest - hoping that the storyline takes a more prominent part... I hope that POS and 0.0 gets more love, and of course Minnie BS :), but that should wait to see what the effects of this patch throw up.
Well done CCP! You get a 95% agreement here - good stuff as far as it goes. And I await the new content and NWO with interest - hoping that the storyline takes a more prominent part... I hope that POS and 0.0 gets more love, and of course Minnie BS :), but that should wait to see what the effects of this patch throw up.
Bobby Wilson on 16 March 2005
Can't find stealth bombers on the market, nor small and medium intensive refining arrays, so they're a little hard to test... BW
Can't find stealth bombers on the market, nor small and medium intensive refining arrays, so they're a little hard to test... BW
Qlippothia on 17 March 2005
[Stamp of Approval] You don't get it often from me. However, please consider publishing the skillbooks needed to use any upcoming ships. That way those of us who don't already have Underwater Basket Weaving 5 can start training in preperation for any frigates we may be willing to shell out 100m for.
[Stamp of Approval] You don't get it often from me. However, please consider publishing the skillbooks needed to use any upcoming ships. That way those of us who don't already have Underwater Basket Weaving 5 can start training in preperation for any frigates we may be willing to shell out 100m for.
MOOstradamus on 17 March 2005
/me hopes that CCP will remember to set the default hangar/cargo/can 'sort by' option back to TYPE with this all encompassing & splendidly elaborate patch ...
/me hopes that CCP will remember to set the default hangar/cargo/can 'sort by' option back to TYPE with this all encompassing & splendidly elaborate patch ...
LLeBRing on 17 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase
Jeni Silver on 17 March 2005
Dammit! Just wrote a dang book and it didn't flippin add comment - will try to remember it all... Ammo changes NEED to go in. Being able to chose between damage types at a given range is faaaaar and away a better system then the current one of if you want X range then you are stuck with Y damage type. That stinks and needs to be changed, even if that means only having 3 ranges to choose from, so be it. Please get the ammo changes IN. All in all sounds like a good patch, thanks for the hard work, we appreciate it. But, but but... What about.... Ice harvesters that shut themselves off every cycle. Pinned UI windows having to be repinned everytime you log on. Shuttles and small ships using 100% and not making it all the way to a warp point less then 3AU away when hitting auto pilot right after an undock. Drones that take armor damage when they still have shields. Etc, etc. It's the little things that make or break a game imo. The big things are all fine and good, but they are the kinds of things that move the game forward, and get worked on pretty much forever. The little things that never get fixed make a huge difference. Simple stuff like fixing ice harvesters, fixing pinned windows, etc. They can't possibly take very long to fix - and they would make the game sooooooo much more enjoyable. Please fix the little stuff !!
Dammit! Just wrote a dang book and it didn't flippin add comment - will try to remember it all... Ammo changes NEED to go in. Being able to chose between damage types at a given range is faaaaar and away a better system then the current one of if you want X range then you are stuck with Y damage type. That stinks and needs to be changed, even if that means only having 3 ranges to choose from, so be it. Please get the ammo changes IN. All in all sounds like a good patch, thanks for the hard work, we appreciate it. But, but but... What about.... Ice harvesters that shut themselves off every cycle. Pinned UI windows having to be repinned everytime you log on. Shuttles and small ships using 100% and not making it all the way to a warp point less then 3AU away when hitting auto pilot right after an undock. Drones that take armor damage when they still have shields. Etc, etc. It's the little things that make or break a game imo. The big things are all fine and good, but they are the kinds of things that move the game forward, and get worked on pretty much forever. The little things that never get fixed make a huge difference. Simple stuff like fixing ice harvesters, fixing pinned windows, etc. They can't possibly take very long to fix - and they would make the game sooooooo much more enjoyable. Please fix the little stuff !!
Letifer Deus on 17 March 2005
Please, of all the things you can boost on hybrids, cap usage is the most worthless. PG reduction for medium/large, and dmg and tracking boost on blasters is what's needed. 7.5% DMG increase on blasters 15% tracking bonus on blasters As for PG reduction, I did it so the PG reqs. would be clean #s. (all reductions are ~5-6%) 425mm/neut=2600 350mm=2000 ion=1900 electron=1400 dual250mm=1150 Do the same for mediums, and if you want, just use the current T1 PG reqs. for T2. Sexy, huh?
Please, of all the things you can boost on hybrids, cap usage is the most worthless. PG reduction for medium/large, and dmg and tracking boost on blasters is what's needed. 7.5% DMG increase on blasters 15% tracking bonus on blasters As for PG reduction, I did it so the PG reqs. would be clean #s. (all reductions are ~5-6%) 425mm/neut=2600 350mm=2000 ion=1900 electron=1400 dual250mm=1150 Do the same for mediums, and if you want, just use the current T1 PG reqs. for T2. Sexy, huh?
Letifer Deus on 17 March 2005
Oveur: if I could get a response from you on that one it would be great. And naturally these changes should be tested extensively on SISI before going to TQ.
Oveur: if I could get a response from you on that one it would be great. And naturally these changes should be tested extensively on SISI before going to TQ.
HDCamper Itsim on 17 March 2005
Oveur, Thanks for your response: I am puzzeled though by the response about: - Why stop here? Lets not. Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices. um why just empire ? why not add the additional offices and factories to the conquerables in 0.0? your response was : We are only increasing in Empire since 0.0 and Conquerable stations rely their defenses on owning these resources and not allowing enemies to set up outposts. We were not going to disrupt that model. Im not sure how increasing the office space and adding some additional factories in conquerable stations and the ability to set the bills on offices and factories to a higher value then its current maximum. (Not personally sure the max that it can go to now but hearing not that high) How would that affect the "model"? It would allow alliances to get all thier member corps some offices and a couple of factories. (still seems on par to the current model in place, for now.) Sure there are a few additional things that would be a huge benefit in the conquerable station regions for alliances such as a few labs or the ability to purchase some labs for a station in a region. Perhaps there is a Deep Space Exploration group who wants to send some / a few(4) security agents to deep 0.0 to find out what is going on? Perhaps even send out an insurance agent or 2 to several regions to process claims, Im sure he or she would find adequate work. Just thoughts Thanks again.
Oveur, Thanks for your response: I am puzzeled though by the response about: - Why stop here? Lets not. Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices. um why just empire ? why not add the additional offices and factories to the conquerables in 0.0? your response was : We are only increasing in Empire since 0.0 and Conquerable stations rely their defenses on owning these resources and not allowing enemies to set up outposts. We were not going to disrupt that model. Im not sure how increasing the office space and adding some additional factories in conquerable stations and the ability to set the bills on offices and factories to a higher value then its current maximum. (Not personally sure the max that it can go to now but hearing not that high) How would that affect the "model"? It would allow alliances to get all thier member corps some offices and a couple of factories. (still seems on par to the current model in place, for now.) Sure there are a few additional things that would be a huge benefit in the conquerable station regions for alliances such as a few labs or the ability to purchase some labs for a station in a region. Perhaps there is a Deep Space Exploration group who wants to send some / a few(4) security agents to deep 0.0 to find out what is going on? Perhaps even send out an insurance agent or 2 to several regions to process claims, Im sure he or she would find adequate work. Just thoughts Thanks again.
HDCamper Itsim on 17 March 2005
Where could I look for information regarding something like a last known login time/date stamp for corp members? Cumulative time online statistics? Viewable only to CEO's and Directors? Regards
Where could I look for information regarding something like a last known login time/date stamp for corp members? Cumulative time online statistics? Viewable only to CEO's and Directors? Regards
Niki Silver on 17 March 2005
Don't cut the ammo changes, get em squared away and get them IN.
Don't cut the ammo changes, get em squared away and get them IN.
Brady on 17 March 2005
Info on Steatlh Bombers please
Info on Steatlh Bombers please
Targorn on 17 March 2005
Look I can make 50 mill in 5 hrs mining veld. War should be the most expensive item out there as it is the most disruptive thing one group can do to another. As to simplifying it, how much simpler can it get? Pick a target, pay the bill, shooot enemy ships after 24 hrs. I would propose a simple war declaration system to you. (# of corps + # of members for declating corp/allaince) * (# of corps + # of members of recieving corp/alliance) * a set fee. that war small groups warring would not get a huge bill unless they were declaring on a huge target ( IE PIRACY). True war would be restricted by your actual wealth. As an aside name me one benefit from the alliance system as it stands now. There is no benefit from being in an alliance atm just being a target for greifers.
Look I can make 50 mill in 5 hrs mining veld. War should be the most expensive item out there as it is the most disruptive thing one group can do to another. As to simplifying it, how much simpler can it get? Pick a target, pay the bill, shooot enemy ships after 24 hrs. I would propose a simple war declaration system to you. (# of corps + # of members for declating corp/allaince) * (# of corps + # of members of recieving corp/alliance) * a set fee. that war small groups warring would not get a huge bill unless they were declaring on a huge target ( IE PIRACY). True war would be restricted by your actual wealth. As an aside name me one benefit from the alliance system as it stands now. There is no benefit from being in an alliance atm just being a target for greifers.
Terris Clavain on 17 March 2005
Yes, where are the stealth stats, please?
Yes, where are the stealth stats, please?
Inspir0n on 17 March 2005
Ammo changes NEED to stay in, why change this if lenses still can be changed during battle? btw info on the stealth bomber would be very appreciated :)
Ammo changes NEED to stay in, why change this if lenses still can be changed during battle? btw info on the stealth bomber would be very appreciated :)
hitech redneck on 17 March 2005
50 mill for a allience war is still to cheap i think 100mill is more inline. Also will war costs still rise each week of the war if so isn't it a exploit if someone retracts and redeclares to keep getting the lower price.
50 mill for a allience war is still to cheap i think 100mill is more inline. Also will war costs still rise each week of the war if so isn't it a exploit if someone retracts and redeclares to keep getting the lower price.
MachZERO on 17 March 2005
LUB Pure LUB!!!!
LUB Pure LUB!!!!
Redeol on 17 March 2005
RISC VS REWARD KEEP THE AGENTS HUGGERS IN EMPIRE SPACE OK OK THEY CAN MAKE MONEY BUT MAKE 0.0 MORE PROFITBLE BETTER LOOT, HIGHER KILL BOUNTIES, WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS.
RISC VS REWARD KEEP THE AGENTS HUGGERS IN EMPIRE SPACE OK OK THEY CAN MAKE MONEY BUT MAKE 0.0 MORE PROFITBLE BETTER LOOT, HIGHER KILL BOUNTIES, WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS.
DARKVALE on 17 March 2005
Oveur Some great things there. Could we have a close button on the bottom of all stn services please. Its a nightmere trying to find that little X (clsoe button). Thanks
Oveur Some great things there. Could we have a close button on the bottom of all stn services please. Its a nightmere trying to find that little X (clsoe button). Thanks
Glarion Garnier on 17 March 2005
1. The new control towers = interesting we shall see how they work 2. Where are the promised Exodus features corp taxes, Asteroid rings etc, Comet mining, You could at least tell us why are you not implementing them. 3. FIX hangars sorting or add option to game setting's that allows us to choose the deffault sorted by setting! ! ! 2 thumbs up for CCP. And keep up the good work. G.G out
1. The new control towers = interesting we shall see how they work 2. Where are the promised Exodus features corp taxes, Asteroid rings etc, Comet mining, You could at least tell us why are you not implementing them. 3. FIX hangars sorting or add option to game setting's that allows us to choose the deffault sorted by setting! ! ! 2 thumbs up for CCP. And keep up the good work. G.G out
LLeBRing on 18 March 2005
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase roles. Come on guys, we've asked over and over, it's a hugely sought after feature, and yet we never get a response on it!
Corp -> Alliance standings Alliance -> Corp/Alliance standings As well as Can USE Starbase roles. Come on guys, we've asked over and over, it's a hugely sought after feature, and yet we never get a response on it!
Hydroponica on 18 March 2005
Ack, 30 mil for some small, piddly, insignificant corp, to declare war on a giant alliance, that probably moves billions of isk worth of stuff through empire on a daily basis. I make that in an hour, ffs, I mean, that's gotta be a joke, I just can't understand how that can seem like a good idea to anyone...We had 7 war decs in 1 day, and you want to make it cheaper for the scum? Not to mention the fact there was 3 main selling points to being in an Alliance, I thought; a)0.0 access b)numbers c)Although war was expected, with the likes of FOE and MoO and SPURM, ppl worthy of the time and effort fighting, however, thought the days as tiny little 3 man nub corps declaring war because their bored were over. But hey, up with the 30 min map refresh, that's a great idea. I think the facts, and labs would be better served in 0.0 stations, though, tbh, that alone would free up tons of space in empire and allow 0.0 alliances to stay where they belong. Woot, yeah, nerf them lasers, I use proj;p Electronic warfare seems a little iffy. It's easy now, and I like easy.
Ack, 30 mil for some small, piddly, insignificant corp, to declare war on a giant alliance, that probably moves billions of isk worth of stuff through empire on a daily basis. I make that in an hour, ffs, I mean, that's gotta be a joke, I just can't understand how that can seem like a good idea to anyone...We had 7 war decs in 1 day, and you want to make it cheaper for the scum? Not to mention the fact there was 3 main selling points to being in an Alliance, I thought; a)0.0 access b)numbers c)Although war was expected, with the likes of FOE and MoO and SPURM, ppl worthy of the time and effort fighting, however, thought the days as tiny little 3 man nub corps declaring war because their bored were over. But hey, up with the 30 min map refresh, that's a great idea. I think the facts, and labs would be better served in 0.0 stations, though, tbh, that alone would free up tons of space in empire and allow 0.0 alliances to stay where they belong. Woot, yeah, nerf them lasers, I use proj;p Electronic warfare seems a little iffy. It's easy now, and I like easy.
Aelita on 18 March 2005
Hmm this patch will not help populate 0.0 move some stations from Empire space to 0.0. 90% of patch is around PvP. More missions for Empire agents wouldn't help too.
Hmm this patch will not help populate 0.0 move some stations from Empire space to 0.0. 90% of patch is around PvP. More missions for Empire agents wouldn't help too.
Torvus Jay on 18 March 2005
oveur: could you maybe consider not putting the propulsion changes in until after the other jamming changes have been live for awile and it can be seen how the playerbase likes or dislikes the chance based system.
oveur: could you maybe consider not putting the propulsion changes in until after the other jamming changes have been live for awile and it can be seen how the playerbase likes or dislikes the chance based system.
Ethidium Bromide on 18 March 2005
so until next patch i'm stuck with useless pulses AND useless beams? :)
so until next patch i'm stuck with useless pulses AND useless beams? :)
allmus on 18 March 2005
i just wrote a big post, but it got lost when i tried to post because it took me more than 15 minutes to write, so i'm keeping this short and sweet. 1. kill all 0.0 map, make allainces who wish to own 0.0 space work to keep the space secure by having to do patrols, npc stations stay on map, POS/players don;t show up unless they are in your allaince/corp. 2. change war cost's, put in a sliding scale from the cheap "15 mill P/W 0.0" war to the mucho expensive 250 mill P/W 1.0" war. ((0.0 war means it's a lawless war, as soon as they enter a 0.1 system, normal game rules apply upwards to 1.0.)) ((1.0 war means everywhere in the entire eve world is classed as a war ground for this type of war, nowhere is safe, it cost's so much because many high-up secuirty and race based npc's need to be bribed to stop concord from entering into the battles)) the 0.0 war is aimed at those allainces who what fun with war, while if your aiming to wipe out every last trace of the enermy from fighters to empire traders you would need to pay a hell of alot more(i.e 250 mill per week) this would detere the corp's/allainces that camp major 1.0 systems because it's fun to kill indys and it cost's cheap too(at the moment it does anyway)
i just wrote a big post, but it got lost when i tried to post because it took me more than 15 minutes to write, so i'm keeping this short and sweet. 1. kill all 0.0 map, make allainces who wish to own 0.0 space work to keep the space secure by having to do patrols, npc stations stay on map, POS/players don;t show up unless they are in your allaince/corp. 2. change war cost's, put in a sliding scale from the cheap "15 mill P/W 0.0" war to the mucho expensive 250 mill P/W 1.0" war. ((0.0 war means it's a lawless war, as soon as they enter a 0.1 system, normal game rules apply upwards to 1.0.)) ((1.0 war means everywhere in the entire eve world is classed as a war ground for this type of war, nowhere is safe, it cost's so much because many high-up secuirty and race based npc's need to be bribed to stop concord from entering into the battles)) the 0.0 war is aimed at those allainces who what fun with war, while if your aiming to wipe out every last trace of the enermy from fighters to empire traders you would need to pay a hell of alot more(i.e 250 mill per week) this would detere the corp's/allainces that camp major 1.0 systems because it's fun to kill indys and it cost's cheap too(at the moment it does anyway)
babo on 18 March 2005
actually, this is a good move towards the blackout of 0.0 ... this way a hunter can travel 0.0 and if chased by some monster alliance blob can easily bail. After people figure it out I think you will start to see a lot more empire chars in 0.0 after this, not to mention with the averages you could move a huge fleet into position before anyone even notices :)
actually, this is a good move towards the blackout of 0.0 ... this way a hunter can travel 0.0 and if chased by some monster alliance blob can easily bail. After people figure it out I think you will start to see a lot more empire chars in 0.0 after this, not to mention with the averages you could move a huge fleet into position before anyone even notices :)
R3aliti on 18 March 2005
The irritating little things that have just slipped in and have never been fixed list: Hanger sorting back to by type or let us set the default. Cargo space remembered on inactive ships I am getting really tired of having to put the cans back into my industrial every time I make it active. Window problems: random resizing, random repositioning, and random snap to another window and resize both smaller no matter how far apart they are. Now for the real question: Have bookmarks been fixed? Do they take you to the same place every time or is it still WARP RANDOMLY CLOSE TO WITHIN 15/20 of bookmark. Please fix this one if nothing else. These should be simple fixes. They seem to have been overlooked or maybe they have been fixed and because they were so simple nothing was said. It is just these little irritating things that day after day, wear on the pleasure of the game. Otherwise I have no complaints and I think you (CCP) are doing a GREAT job. Please do not let the little things ruin a great game .
The irritating little things that have just slipped in and have never been fixed list: Hanger sorting back to by type or let us set the default. Cargo space remembered on inactive ships I am getting really tired of having to put the cans back into my industrial every time I make it active. Window problems: random resizing, random repositioning, and random snap to another window and resize both smaller no matter how far apart they are. Now for the real question: Have bookmarks been fixed? Do they take you to the same place every time or is it still WARP RANDOMLY CLOSE TO WITHIN 15/20 of bookmark. Please fix this one if nothing else. These should be simple fixes. They seem to have been overlooked or maybe they have been fixed and because they were so simple nothing was said. It is just these little irritating things that day after day, wear on the pleasure of the game. Otherwise I have no complaints and I think you (CCP) are doing a GREAT job. Please do not let the little things ruin a great game .
Jockey on 18 March 2005
awww c'mon - stealth bomber info, stats, skills etc... anything..... plzzzzzzzzz
awww c'mon - stealth bomber info, stats, skills etc... anything..... plzzzzzzzzz
PC101 on 19 March 2005
what will fuel requiremnt foe the small pos be like?
what will fuel requiremnt foe the small pos be like?
Letifer Deus on 19 March 2005
I demand that named ion cannons and 800mm plates get put into the drop tables.
I demand that named ion cannons and 800mm plates get put into the drop tables.
Redeol on 19 March 2005
risc vs reward for the win.
risc vs reward for the win.
Terran Miner on 19 March 2005
SB Info Request #4,048 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?" SB Info Request #4,049 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?" SB Info Request #4,050 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?"
SB Info Request #4,048 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?" SB Info Request #4,049 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?" SB Info Request #4,050 >> "STEALTH BOMBER INFO PLEASE - WHERE DO WE LOOK?"
HippoKing on 19 March 2005
will stealth bombers be elite frigates, cruisers or some new class completely?
will stealth bombers be elite frigates, cruisers or some new class completely?
Black 1 on 20 March 2005
w00t to tower changes... boo to laser nerf ;) since i've just got to using my geddon :P but are well.... live and adapt
w00t to tower changes... boo to laser nerf ;) since i've just got to using my geddon :P but are well.... live and adapt
Elad Baan on 20 March 2005
About the "pilots in space" thing, what about variation on the delay according to the sec status? For example, in 1.0 to 0.7, it shows the number of players currently in space. Between 0.6 and 0.3, it shows an average for last 20 minutes. From 0.2 to 0.0, it's an average for the last 30 to 60 minutes...
About the "pilots in space" thing, what about variation on the delay according to the sec status? For example, in 1.0 to 0.7, it shows the number of players currently in space. Between 0.6 and 0.3, it shows an average for last 20 minutes. From 0.2 to 0.0, it's an average for the last 30 to 60 minutes...
Nero Scuro on 21 March 2005
Info on stealth bombers, for the unaware: *It's a frigate. Or possibly a cruiser. Or battleship. *It is stealthy. This means it uses cloaking devices well. Or it has a low sig radius. Or it's simply stealthy because no-one knows what it is. *It uses bombs. Which means missiles. Or smartbombs. Or... turrets. *It's a ship of some kind. This we are sure of. Maybe it's a drone... *It will be released in the next patch. Or will it? *It's sikrit.
Info on stealth bombers, for the unaware: *It's a frigate. Or possibly a cruiser. Or battleship. *It is stealthy. This means it uses cloaking devices well. Or it has a low sig radius. Or it's simply stealthy because no-one knows what it is. *It uses bombs. Which means missiles. Or smartbombs. Or... turrets. *It's a ship of some kind. This we are sure of. Maybe it's a drone... *It will be released in the next patch. Or will it? *It's sikrit.
Messerschmitt facility on 21 March 2005
Ok its pointless one person like me fight against all other non-amar hater, that dont use lasers, and dont know the enormeos headache that capacitor gives, and the MAJOR PG problem especialy at cruiser ship class. So one question I would have. Why the turrets users need to train up to 6 months only to compete with the missle users that in maximum 1 month can have almost 100% efficiency? While in fact the missle avg damage over avg damage turrets is much higher (I done the tests and also a guy posted on forum an image with the efficiency using a program recording the log)
Ok its pointless one person like me fight against all other non-amar hater, that dont use lasers, and dont know the enormeos headache that capacitor gives, and the MAJOR PG problem especialy at cruiser ship class. So one question I would have. Why the turrets users need to train up to 6 months only to compete with the missle users that in maximum 1 month can have almost 100% efficiency? While in fact the missle avg damage over avg damage turrets is much higher (I done the tests and also a guy posted on forum an image with the efficiency using a program recording the log)
Clerence Thomas on 21 March 2005
I seriously hope that corp tax fixes got in...
I seriously hope that corp tax fixes got in...
Uggster on 22 March 2005
LOL @ Nero Bang Up-to-date on that one :) Rest of the patch seems to be looking good though.
LOL @ Nero Bang Up-to-date on that one :) Rest of the patch seems to be looking good though.
Ethidium Bromide on 22 March 2005
maybe this has been asked 5 times allready but i didn't find it right now. therefore: when is this patch planned to hit TQ?
maybe this has been asked 5 times allready but i didn't find it right now. therefore: when is this patch planned to hit TQ?
Chaoskeeper on 22 March 2005
and the other question is, how many emergency patches are planned this time? :)
and the other question is, how many emergency patches are planned this time? :)
Attrezzo Pox on 22 March 2005
HELL YES!!! Is it christmas... I feel a tear *sob*. There are so many much needed changes in here it almost makes me want to run around work and scream... "It's comming, it's comming, Everyone take off and enjoy the new patch". I for one am very excited to see that these changes are the ones being pushed.
HELL YES!!! Is it christmas... I feel a tear *sob*. There are so many much needed changes in here it almost makes me want to run around work and scream... "It's comming, it's comming, Everyone take off and enjoy the new patch". I for one am very excited to see that these changes are the ones being pushed.
Girod on 22 March 2005
Of course we don't get any info on the stealth bomber, that's its stealth feature.
Of course we don't get any info on the stealth bomber, that's its stealth feature.
Vigilant on 22 March 2005
Complete and utter BS ! (not battleship)... So, basically T2 Comps are getting nerfed, cause those MEGA Corps whined too much about not making a profit on their POS's... Sorry CCP you justed nerfed the Independent Small Corp that wants to sell T2 by using Agents Drops as its supply.... The NEW Stuff dropping better be the complex reactions (i.e. what you get when you Refine COMPS now... Cause any less is CRAP to a smaller corp... At least then I could buy the BPO's and build the comps from the materials the Agent gives me....
Complete and utter BS ! (not battleship)... So, basically T2 Comps are getting nerfed, cause those MEGA Corps whined too much about not making a profit on their POS's... Sorry CCP you justed nerfed the Independent Small Corp that wants to sell T2 by using Agents Drops as its supply.... The NEW Stuff dropping better be the complex reactions (i.e. what you get when you Refine COMPS now... Cause any less is CRAP to a smaller corp... At least then I could buy the BPO's and build the comps from the materials the Agent gives me....
Na'Axin on 22 March 2005
yay, all good stuff look at beams, don't nerf the radio crystals... nerf the pulses
yay, all good stuff look at beams, don't nerf the radio crystals... nerf the pulses
PaulAtreides on 23 March 2005
Awesome, truly wonderful! OMG.. it's full of stars!!
Awesome, truly wonderful! OMG.. it's full of stars!!
Messerschmitt facility on 23 March 2005
And throw a look at the small and medium beams, they consume extremely exagerated PG. /whine off
And throw a look at the small and medium beams, they consume extremely exagerated PG. /whine off
Grismar on 23 March 2005
I like the mutual war declarations and I already know how I will exploit it (though with no gain, so perhaps I should say abuse instead of exploit): My corp would love to practice PvP with other alliance corps, now we can mutually declare war, even though we're best friends, and shoot the hell out of eachother, then wrapping up the war. My point? You might consider renaming "mutually declared war" to ... Hmm, to what actually. I expect "mutually declared war" would still be useful, but "corporation tournament" or something similar might be added as an option and would serve to keep actual wars (and their politics) seperate from friendly skirmishes.
I like the mutual war declarations and I already know how I will exploit it (though with no gain, so perhaps I should say abuse instead of exploit): My corp would love to practice PvP with other alliance corps, now we can mutually declare war, even though we're best friends, and shoot the hell out of eachother, then wrapping up the war. My point? You might consider renaming "mutually declared war" to ... Hmm, to what actually. I expect "mutually declared war" would still be useful, but "corporation tournament" or something similar might be added as an option and would serve to keep actual wars (and their politics) seperate from friendly skirmishes.
Grismar on 23 March 2005
Oh and another thing: good going! Keep it up CCP! And can't get enough of hybrid love ^^.
Oh and another thing: good going! Keep it up CCP! And can't get enough of hybrid love ^^.
gen2 on 23 March 2005
Default sort by type = mandatory How about some sort of reward system for ppl with a 10.0 standing with their mission agent and/or mission corp? It takes a lot of time and effort to attain that standing, it would seem fair to reward that. Possibly alowing those with that high standing to qualify for events, or other elite rewards.... just my 2 cents And jeez, throw a dog a bone with that stealth bomber info! Leaving us hanging is just cruel! =) Just a pic will suffice (for now)
Default sort by type = mandatory How about some sort of reward system for ppl with a 10.0 standing with their mission agent and/or mission corp? It takes a lot of time and effort to attain that standing, it would seem fair to reward that. Possibly alowing those with that high standing to qualify for events, or other elite rewards.... just my 2 cents And jeez, throw a dog a bone with that stealth bomber info! Leaving us hanging is just cruel! =) Just a pic will suffice (for now)
Falzone on 24 March 2005
The war cost changes are Crap. currently say I have 2 alliances of 10 corps each. The first war will cost me 10 mil and the 2nd will cost me 20 mil for a total of 30 for a week. Now the cost will be 50 mil for the first and 100 mil for the 2nd at 150 mil total a week. 500% increase thats nuts. Just another way to nerf pvp and make the alliances harder to kill for small corps.
The war cost changes are Crap. currently say I have 2 alliances of 10 corps each. The first war will cost me 10 mil and the 2nd will cost me 20 mil for a total of 30 for a week. Now the cost will be 50 mil for the first and 100 mil for the 2nd at 150 mil total a week. 500% increase thats nuts. Just another way to nerf pvp and make the alliances harder to kill for small corps.
ALTNAME on 24 March 2005
Ive had it with this game, their is nothing but pandering going on for people that have nothing better to do but make people waste more of their time.
Ive had it with this game, their is nothing but pandering going on for people that have nothing better to do but make people waste more of their time.
TEHA on 24 March 2005
I would like to know more about the "System Scan times will be substantially reduced" in how that relates to Probe usage. The whole package, launcher, all the drones 192s and down to the 3aus... What is so special that I now need to use a Covert Ops to make this work? How is that going to happen when the probe launhcer itself needs 220 cpu to use. A Covert Ops doesn't have that much left over, even if you trained it up to Level 5. Or are you simply trying to make Probes a 'tactical' weapon, which they are not right now? TEHA/Talons
I would like to know more about the "System Scan times will be substantially reduced" in how that relates to Probe usage. The whole package, launcher, all the drones 192s and down to the 3aus... What is so special that I now need to use a Covert Ops to make this work? How is that going to happen when the probe launhcer itself needs 220 cpu to use. A Covert Ops doesn't have that much left over, even if you trained it up to Level 5. Or are you simply trying to make Probes a 'tactical' weapon, which they are not right now? TEHA/Talons
UnknownHuman on 25 March 2005
Hmm I'm looking forward to this patch, I hope it works out. And Add Comet Mining!!
Hmm I'm looking forward to this patch, I hope it works out. And Add Comet Mining!!
Jackkal on 25 March 2005
Patch Notes? As for war cost Falzone mentioned 50 mil is still to cheap. you can pvp all you want in low security for free. Most of the wars i have seen in Empire space is mostly from griefers. War needs to have a set goal or grivence not you just want to shoot something and want easy targets.
Patch Notes? As for war cost Falzone mentioned 50 mil is still to cheap. you can pvp all you want in low security for free. Most of the wars i have seen in Empire space is mostly from griefers. War needs to have a set goal or grivence not you just want to shoot something and want easy targets.
Joey on 25 March 2005
Alliance war costs are way too high at 50m. People use alliances as their automatic safety net. An alliance is in a better position to defend itself than a small corp and should be expected to actively defend itself instead of relying on the automatic protection offered to them by high war bills.
Alliance war costs are way too high at 50m. People use alliances as their automatic safety net. An alliance is in a better position to defend itself than a small corp and should be expected to actively defend itself instead of relying on the automatic protection offered to them by high war bills.
Tarax on 25 March 2005
I didn't hear anything here about nerfing Ravens or Missles... People have been saying on the help channel that it's happening this patch, but I don't see anything mentioned here?
I didn't hear anything here about nerfing Ravens or Missles... People have been saying on the help channel that it's happening this patch, but I don't see anything mentioned here?
Juicy Fruit on 25 March 2005
I agree Ifny, what's in it for the solo player? Once again, we are forced down a path of membership in a large group to partake in game features, including most 0.0 access, ability to run POS, etc. I don't WANT to join a pantywaste alliance.
I agree Ifny, what's in it for the solo player? Once again, we are forced down a path of membership in a large group to partake in game features, including most 0.0 access, ability to run POS, etc. I don't WANT to join a pantywaste alliance.
Hairless on 25 March 2005
I've heard some say here that it should be a benefit to be in an alliance and not a burden. One of the benefits is certainly more buddies to help protect you. Point is, that war costs against an alliance should be very low because you are in a better position to defend yourself, and war costs against a small corp should be higher since they have a harder time defending themselves. Alliances are used as a safety net by carebears when in fact, they have a great deal of power to exercize and should be expected to. If a 1 man corp can terrorize an alliance in domain, who the frack can feel sorry for the alliance. Lower war costs for alliances !
I've heard some say here that it should be a benefit to be in an alliance and not a burden. One of the benefits is certainly more buddies to help protect you. Point is, that war costs against an alliance should be very low because you are in a better position to defend yourself, and war costs against a small corp should be higher since they have a harder time defending themselves. Alliances are used as a safety net by carebears when in fact, they have a great deal of power to exercize and should be expected to. If a 1 man corp can terrorize an alliance in domain, who the frack can feel sorry for the alliance. Lower war costs for alliances !
Mr' Bester on 25 March 2005
Where are the level 3.5 agent missions? 3's are too easy and 4's require an armada if you ever hope to get the bonus. Again, ccp not looking out for the single player and sucking up to the corps. It doesn't have to be that way!
Where are the level 3.5 agent missions? 3's are too easy and 4's require an armada if you ever hope to get the bonus. Again, ccp not looking out for the single player and sucking up to the corps. It doesn't have to be that way!
ALTNAME on 25 March 2005
Why is it an unwritten rule that alliances must be immune to everything
Why is it an unwritten rule that alliances must be immune to everything
SweatySack on 25 March 2005
I like this very much...Thank you sooooooo very much for looking out for the 0.0 POS builders.
I like this very much...Thank you sooooooo very much for looking out for the 0.0 POS builders.
ALTNAME on 26 March 2005
Lower war costs for alliances. They control the markets, production, 0.0, everything, and now you cannot declare war on them unless you have bought your isk, account, or have lots of friends, at least not for long. The logic behind the war cost raise, is that ultimately it is inconvenient that an alliance would have to put up with being a target, especially its haulers. The burden is placed squarely upon the small corporation, so that alliances are not inconvenienced. I simply cannot believe it. Links to sites advertising isk for sale can be found on this site.
Lower war costs for alliances. They control the markets, production, 0.0, everything, and now you cannot declare war on them unless you have bought your isk, account, or have lots of friends, at least not for long. The logic behind the war cost raise, is that ultimately it is inconvenient that an alliance would have to put up with being a target, especially its haulers. The burden is placed squarely upon the small corporation, so that alliances are not inconvenienced. I simply cannot believe it. Links to sites advertising isk for sale can be found on this site.
Carfax on 26 March 2005
good to see you haven't penalised carebear merc corps by implementing corp war declarations as mutual agreement only. wouldn't want to force them to take on equally matched corps or heaven forbid go into 0.0 space. they might cancel their accounts if they had to lose ships (thats sarcasm by the way, look it up in a dictionary, thats a big book which lists words and what they mean)
good to see you haven't penalised carebear merc corps by implementing corp war declarations as mutual agreement only. wouldn't want to force them to take on equally matched corps or heaven forbid go into 0.0 space. they might cancel their accounts if they had to lose ships (thats sarcasm by the way, look it up in a dictionary, thats a big book which lists words and what they mean)
Elise Masutra on 26 March 2005
corp/alliance taxes????? POS access role??? 50M 4 alliance war? /me puts plate an her back "plz shoot me all" i don't need more ships :(
corp/alliance taxes????? POS access role??? 50M 4 alliance war? /me puts plate an her back "plz shoot me all" i don't need more ships :(
ChronoLynx on 27 March 2005
Mr' Bester, I do LVL 4 Agent missions by myself in a Scorp and make it out withouta scratch everytime. Two of my Corpmates do the same in a Raven. Another on of them does it in a Apoc. A former corpmate does them in a Mega, we all do the missions solo and it works out for us in the long run.
Mr' Bester, I do LVL 4 Agent missions by myself in a Scorp and make it out withouta scratch everytime. Two of my Corpmates do the same in a Raven. Another on of them does it in a Apoc. A former corpmate does them in a Mega, we all do the missions solo and it works out for us in the long run.
hindukush on 27 March 2005
I want to be able to "search" in my assests.
I want to be able to "search" in my assests.
killmc on 27 March 2005
cant ccp come up with some mod for the bs it bad we cant even fit full weps loads on some bs due to power and or cpu might be nice for new player but dont see much that help me out
cant ccp come up with some mod for the bs it bad we cant even fit full weps loads on some bs due to power and or cpu might be nice for new player but dont see much that help me out
killmc on 27 March 2005
whatabout corp taxes be nice to get what in the game to work frist agrees with Elise Masutra
whatabout corp taxes be nice to get what in the game to work frist agrees with Elise Masutra
Asgard 2 on 28 March 2005
killmc since when can u fit 5 heavy neutron blasters on a Thorax without mods. Exactly, battleships are not meant to be able to fit an entire load out of uber pwnzor ur dead in 2 seconds guns, would just be unbalanced. Also, I wish hybrids, or gallente ships in general would get a bonus someday. Wow... a SMALL decrease in cap and possibly pgrid, that doesnt help us at all. Our ships still have uber structure, what good does that do us? Either come out with structure tanking modules or give alot more love to our horrible weapons...
killmc since when can u fit 5 heavy neutron blasters on a Thorax without mods. Exactly, battleships are not meant to be able to fit an entire load out of uber pwnzor ur dead in 2 seconds guns, would just be unbalanced. Also, I wish hybrids, or gallente ships in general would get a bonus someday. Wow... a SMALL decrease in cap and possibly pgrid, that doesnt help us at all. Our ships still have uber structure, what good does that do us? Either come out with structure tanking modules or give alot more love to our horrible weapons...
Sonnebahn on 28 March 2005
"Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices." There is a large debate going on about the meaning of this statement. There seems to be 3 interpretations to it. 1. 24 labs and factories will be added to the slot in stations with currently existing facilities. 2. 24 labs and factories will exist in every secure space station. 3. 24 total labs and factories will be scattered around the stations in secure space. I was wondering if this could be cleared up a bit? Thanks
"Factory, Office and Lab slots in Empire Stations have been increased as a stopgap until the final solution is implemented later this year. Adding 24 slots of Lab and Factory and a 50% increase in Offices." There is a large debate going on about the meaning of this statement. There seems to be 3 interpretations to it. 1. 24 labs and factories will be added to the slot in stations with currently existing facilities. 2. 24 labs and factories will exist in every secure space station. 3. 24 total labs and factories will be scattered around the stations in secure space. I was wondering if this could be cleared up a bit? Thanks
hurstel crankoff on 28 March 2005
i was thinking about the planned nerfs and couldnt help thinking this is a realistic game yes? well in real life all things arent equal are they so why complain ? if we want a perfectly level playing field perhaps we should have sealed "controll" ships with the same modules and weapons then noone could wave the its not fair flag. some of the proposed changes seem quite reasonable but far to many of them seem to be aimed at taking the fun out of the game for no real benefit. anyway theres my 2pence worth fly safe ;-)
i was thinking about the planned nerfs and couldnt help thinking this is a realistic game yes? well in real life all things arent equal are they so why complain ? if we want a perfectly level playing field perhaps we should have sealed "controll" ships with the same modules and weapons then noone could wave the its not fair flag. some of the proposed changes seem quite reasonable but far to many of them seem to be aimed at taking the fun out of the game for no real benefit. anyway theres my 2pence worth fly safe ;-)
Sunder Gaurd on 29 March 2005
MMO people.... whats it stand for, I cant find my dictionary :P I pay RL$ to have fun with my "friends"! :P 50 mil in a allance=chickenscratch needs to be like 100mil+
MMO people.... whats it stand for, I cant find my dictionary :P I pay RL$ to have fun with my "friends"! :P 50 mil in a allance=chickenscratch needs to be like 100mil+
killmc on 29 March 2005
asgard lifre not fair butthe bs is the big best ship in game it seams to me that ccp shiting on the big older player wile doing ever thang they can to help outnew players i see there bis point help the new one make them play to get to bs and hac andthan forget them knowing that we older player will put up with it and pray that some day ccp will rember the older players
asgard lifre not fair butthe bs is the big best ship in game it seams to me that ccp shiting on the big older player wile doing ever thang they can to help outnew players i see there bis point help the new one make them play to get to bs and hac andthan forget them knowing that we older player will put up with it and pray that some day ccp will rember the older players
Messerschmitt facility on 29 March 2005
Actualy the factory addition is usless, there are plenty of factories unused excepting the pilling systems.
Actualy the factory addition is usless, there are plenty of factories unused excepting the pilling systems.
NeverL on 30 March 2005
damn, stupid CCP, HOW SHOULD WE KILL POS'es?
damn, stupid CCP, HOW SHOULD WE KILL POS'es?
zerobubble on 30 March 2005
gal cov ops have no launcher spot to use probes... diff bonus for the Helios?
gal cov ops have no launcher spot to use probes... diff bonus for the Helios?
Phoenix 777 on 31 March 2005
some nice stuff in this patch, specially the co ops bonus, warfare and agent fixes but, hmm, shouldnt torpedos hitting frigates be fixed before pulse lasers.... and... i really hope this patch brings more stabilitiys... becouse many of us have really lots of problems with ctding and client / server sync since the last patch..... but oh well... looks cool, sure hope it is too :)
some nice stuff in this patch, specially the co ops bonus, warfare and agent fixes but, hmm, shouldnt torpedos hitting frigates be fixed before pulse lasers.... and... i really hope this patch brings more stabilitiys... becouse many of us have really lots of problems with ctding and client / server sync since the last patch..... but oh well... looks cool, sure hope it is too :)
Joan Smith on 31 March 2005
/me hp change back :( i was looking forward to that
/me hp change back :( i was looking forward to that
Hyperforce99 on 31 March 2005
I thought this patch was going to hold POs buildings like cpu extending and powerplant buildings, I even heard of a factory POS that was comming out, :( seems not. damn I really was looking forward of expanding the POS. O well, maybe next patch. the hybride = less cap is good and so is are the small and Medium controll towers. I'm looking forward to the stealth bombers :D aweseme Its a good patch, lets hope next will be even better ;P
I thought this patch was going to hold POs buildings like cpu extending and powerplant buildings, I even heard of a factory POS that was comming out, :( seems not. damn I really was looking forward of expanding the POS. O well, maybe next patch. the hybride = less cap is good and so is are the small and Medium controll towers. I'm looking forward to the stealth bombers :D aweseme Its a good patch, lets hope next will be even better ;P
flummox on 01 April 2005
stealth bombers for the win
stealth bombers for the win
Bosswoman on 03 April 2005
bombers of doom yay!! booo we want some more love for projectiles yay slap the agents around for us woot woot
bombers of doom yay!! booo we want some more love for projectiles yay slap the agents around for us woot woot
Ranx Xerox on 12 May 2005
Tech Level 2 Components will be exchanged with Materials lower in the Component chain = giving raws and / or simple reaction ?? I really hope it will never drop advanced reaction or it will still be a big mess for the POS owners.
Tech Level 2 Components will be exchanged with Materials lower in the Component chain = giving raws and / or simple reaction ?? I really hope it will never drop advanced reaction or it will still be a big mess for the POS owners.
Princess AMARR on 15 June 2005
So..... when is it going to come out??? I'm very excited to know whant I have to do next jsut to even fly them...
So..... when is it going to come out??? I'm very excited to know whant I have to do next jsut to even fly them...
Little Fistter on 19 June 2005
Hey! How come Pirates can kill "Carebears" by the dozen but god help the miner who tries to kill a pirate. Whay are pirates so protected while miners and haulers get bushwhacked every stinking day! Come on, let us fight back. Balance the game so non PvPers can at least defend themselves. Go to Ostingale and watch the pirates toast everything that enters the system. its really unbalanced. You can not defend against them. Or is the game really for the pirates and the miners and haulers are just dummies to pay for betting blown up every weekend? Nerf the pirate campouts!!! Please.
Further commenting has been disabled. If you want to discuss this post then head on to the forums Hey! How come Pirates can kill "Carebears" by the dozen but god help the miner who tries to kill a pirate. Whay are pirates so protected while miners and haulers get bushwhacked every stinking day! Come on, let us fight back. Balance the game so non PvPers can at least defend themselves. Go to Ostingale and watch the pirates toast everything that enters the system. its really unbalanced. You can not defend against them. Or is the game really for the pirates and the miners and haulers are just dummies to pay for betting blown up every weekend? Nerf the pirate campouts!!! Please.