Test Server (SiSi, Singularity, BFC and so on) just opened today with some candy made by CCP, among them is a brand new stacking change to check out. The change from the current known stacking limitations are in the calculations made to modules listed with a loss of effectiveness when stacked too many times.
In small details: stacking two to three modules now become more efficient than you currently see on Tranquility, four being about the same as they are now, while the efficiency of five or more stacked modules gets ... bad....
Also the dreaded problem of stacking super and lamer modifiers giving zero and negative values has been fixed (like the crazy tracking computer modified by cormack himself and a basic tracking enhancer could do if you got unlucky when dragging the modules to your ship).
The system is brand new and just got out to public testing today, so try it out and leave behind feedback of any kind; bugs, imbalance and general bad smell of any kind.
Ave
Comments
Cpt Ghost on 14 November 2005
Cool
Cool
Tekka on 14 November 2005
Damn it, shouldnt of read it =[
Damn it, shouldnt of read it =[
Brox Niveholder on 14 November 2005
lol.. 1 second behind there Tekka:)
lol.. 1 second behind there Tekka:)
Intar Domi on 14 November 2005
5th! my best till now :)
5th! my best till now :)
TomB on 14 November 2005
"Intar Domi 5th! my best till now :)"
gratz
"Intar Domi 5th! my best till now :)"
gratz
Tobias Raddick on 14 November 2005
Woo! Go Domi! *awaits eventual mathematical explanations of stacking changes*
Woo! Go Domi! *awaits eventual mathematical explanations of stacking changes*
Xrak on 14 November 2005
Disliking the new font
Disliking the new font
Mjnari on 14 November 2005
New font 4tw!
New font 4tw!
Nightwing on 14 November 2005
What is with CCP trying to change the font every single patch now. WHY?
What is with CCP trying to change the font every single patch now. WHY?
Zeromancer on 14 November 2005
11th!
11th!
Skva on 14 November 2005
Not sure if it's a bug, or a 'feature' but the criminal flag timer is saying I'm flagged for shooting Guristas. Also, the "Warping to x" notice is appearing in orange, though seems corp mates aren't getting that problem. *kicks computer* (Along with the distance to warp bubble collapse being gone...) New font is... well, horrible :) Market doesn't seem to be working correctly. Sell orders are displayed incorrectly. Can't say I'm too fond of the new character sheet... But I could get used to it. Looking forward to the new mirror, might actually be able to test ships out then :D Also, as someone else said ^, would it be possible to get accelerated training back?
Not sure if it's a bug, or a 'feature' but the criminal flag timer is saying I'm flagged for shooting Guristas. Also, the "Warping to x" notice is appearing in orange, though seems corp mates aren't getting that problem. *kicks computer* (Along with the distance to warp bubble collapse being gone...) New font is... well, horrible :) Market doesn't seem to be working correctly. Sell orders are displayed incorrectly. Can't say I'm too fond of the new character sheet... But I could get used to it. Looking forward to the new mirror, might actually be able to test ships out then :D Also, as someone else said ^, would it be possible to get accelerated training back?
Emiug on 14 November 2005
new font is *ok* just needs to be bigger
new font is *ok* just needs to be bigger
Laocoon on 14 November 2005
hmm
hmm
Torquemanda Corteaz on 14 November 2005
I would recommend accelerated training to be reactivate a la shiva. It make testing a lot simpler.
I would recommend accelerated training to be reactivate a la shiva. It make testing a lot simpler.
Torquemanda Corteaz on 14 November 2005
Less alcohol, more english makes for a happier reader
Less alcohol, more english makes for a happier reader
Zarthanon on 14 November 2005
YAYZORZ! I already had some setups ready to test before this came out... bout dang tim.
YAYZORZ! I already had some setups ready to test before this came out... bout dang tim.
Kathleen on 14 November 2005
I don't like the new font, can't pin down exactly why it just doesn't look as good. Also I see that you reduced the drone size already but didn't change the skills involved, that makes it hard to test with ;)
I don't like the new font, can't pin down exactly why it just doesn't look as good. Also I see that you reduced the drone size already but didn't change the skills involved, that makes it hard to test with ;)
Kathleen on 14 November 2005
Thats 'drone bay' size btw, also whats up with the asking me if I'm sure when I fire on NPC rats while in 0.0?
Thats 'drone bay' size btw, also whats up with the asking me if I'm sure when I fire on NPC rats while in 0.0?
Arleonenis on 14 November 2005
nice change (i never thought i would say this)
nice change (i never thought i would say this)
Esrevatem Dlareme on 14 November 2005
Omgz0r! To teh SisiMobile! *goes to get test patches*
Omgz0r! To teh SisiMobile! *goes to get test patches*
Helmut 314 on 14 November 2005
Does this apply just to damage mods or to hardeners as well ?
Does this apply just to damage mods or to hardeners as well ?
Rocius on 14 November 2005
To be honest, I have yet to have a decent experience in Test server. The only thing that I can do is quit my corp and join FC. Thats the only actual way to get gear. Not to mention, how are we supposed to test new items out? Wait a few months for the skills to train up? I dont know the programming and limitations of Sisi at all, but I would think that enabling some sort of instant training would actualy help out tremendously. It would be nice if all the market items were seeded. I mean all of them. Ships, mods, skills. everything. Cant there be some uber producer alt of the devs that builds everything and sells it all at 1 isk each? There does not need to be hundreds of them, 2 for each region of Empire, a few in 0.0 as well. Just a few thoughts of a frustrated player.
To be honest, I have yet to have a decent experience in Test server. The only thing that I can do is quit my corp and join FC. Thats the only actual way to get gear. Not to mention, how are we supposed to test new items out? Wait a few months for the skills to train up? I dont know the programming and limitations of Sisi at all, but I would think that enabling some sort of instant training would actualy help out tremendously. It would be nice if all the market items were seeded. I mean all of them. Ships, mods, skills. everything. Cant there be some uber producer alt of the devs that builds everything and sells it all at 1 isk each? There does not need to be hundreds of them, 2 for each region of Empire, a few in 0.0 as well. Just a few thoughts of a frustrated player.
lceman on 14 November 2005
icelandic people are so overrated :) Danes 4 teh win. bujaa watch out 4 ninja Dolph
icelandic people are so overrated :) Danes 4 teh win. bujaa watch out 4 ninja Dolph
Nicklas Larsson on 14 November 2005
Agree, no market, no test :( but good work beside that
Agree, no market, no test :( but good work beside that
DARKVALE on 15 November 2005
WOW very nice CHARACTER SHEET GREAT INFERFACE
WOW very nice CHARACTER SHEET GREAT INFERFACE
DARKVALE on 15 November 2005
DOUBLE WOOT the factory icon THANKS very nice
DOUBLE WOOT the factory icon THANKS very nice
SauronTheMage on 15 November 2005
I'm not at home currently. What's the stacking %'s for using upto 3 or 4 modules of the same now (such as hards, etc) compared to before the changes?
I'm not at home currently. What's the stacking %'s for using upto 3 or 4 modules of the same now (such as hards, etc) compared to before the changes?
Leno on 15 November 2005
Is anything going to be done to warp core stabs? I mean, if people are only using at most 4 dmg mods, that means they just free'd up all those slots and lose nothing by fitting wcs.
Is anything going to be done to warp core stabs? I mean, if people are only using at most 4 dmg mods, that means they just free'd up all those slots and lose nothing by fitting wcs.
Zarthanon on 15 November 2005
Leno 2005.11.15 06:08:42 Is anything going to be done to warp core stabs? I mean, if people are only using at most 4 dmg mods, that means they just free'd up all those slots and lose nothing by fitting wcs. SIGNED LIKE A MOFO! And... TomB's a nOOb.
Leno 2005.11.15 06:08:42 Is anything going to be done to warp core stabs? I mean, if people are only using at most 4 dmg mods, that means they just free'd up all those slots and lose nothing by fitting wcs. SIGNED LIKE A MOFO! And... TomB's a nOOb.
forumalt on 15 November 2005
@Zarthanon... you can fit tracking enhancers and dmg mods in lows... for ex... 4 HS II and 4 tracking enhancers on arma will give very nice DPS on cr/hac :)
@Zarthanon... you can fit tracking enhancers and dmg mods in lows... for ex... 4 HS II and 4 tracking enhancers on arma will give very nice DPS on cr/hac :)
ParMizaN on 15 November 2005
ya but it still means wcs are more viable :( love the insta and stacking changes love you tomB :D
ya but it still means wcs are more viable :( love the insta and stacking changes love you tomB :D
Ralitge boyter on 15 November 2005
Sounds cool, so this would mean that even stacking a 5% and a 50% bonus means you get about 51% and not 38% bonus? (if I read it correctly) CCP, is there a date set (even a tentative date) for RMR and if so what are you trying to put in? Basicaly trying to plan around the holidays as I will most likely not get a whole lot of time to enjoy EVE with the skiing and the christmas tree's and stuff... Knowing what will be in will enable present a better case to my girlfriend as to why I should play that stupid game again (her words not mine, and yes I consider her unworthy ;-) )
Sounds cool, so this would mean that even stacking a 5% and a 50% bonus means you get about 51% and not 38% bonus? (if I read it correctly) CCP, is there a date set (even a tentative date) for RMR and if so what are you trying to put in? Basicaly trying to plan around the holidays as I will most likely not get a whole lot of time to enjoy EVE with the skiing and the christmas tree's and stuff... Knowing what will be in will enable present a better case to my girlfriend as to why I should play that stupid game again (her words not mine, and yes I consider her unworthy ;-) )
Captain Nephi on 15 November 2005
I like the new stacking concept, but wish they'd fix a few other things as well. While I'm an Amarr pilot, I feel sorry for friends of mine who are Caldari & Gallentene. In the past they nerfd missles, boostd artillary, and now are nerfing drones. Sucks to be anything other then Minmitarr or Amarr. Also with tanking, the most uber shield booster can boost 720 HPs for 400 energy cost, while the most uber armor booster can boost over 1200 HPs for the same 400 energy cost. That means armor boosting ships will always boost faster. Also, when it comes to resistance, armor resitance is easy to upgrade, while shield resistance levels are always lower for same skill levels and numbers of mods. Point is, time to give up on all Caldari ships, shield boosting ships, missle boats, and now drone ships too. Stick to artillary guns or laser guns. They get instant damage, have the best range, the most damage per hit, and havent got nerfd. Thank goodness Im still a newbie & havent trained alot of useless skills.
I like the new stacking concept, but wish they'd fix a few other things as well. While I'm an Amarr pilot, I feel sorry for friends of mine who are Caldari & Gallentene. In the past they nerfd missles, boostd artillary, and now are nerfing drones. Sucks to be anything other then Minmitarr or Amarr. Also with tanking, the most uber shield booster can boost 720 HPs for 400 energy cost, while the most uber armor booster can boost over 1200 HPs for the same 400 energy cost. That means armor boosting ships will always boost faster. Also, when it comes to resistance, armor resitance is easy to upgrade, while shield resistance levels are always lower for same skill levels and numbers of mods. Point is, time to give up on all Caldari ships, shield boosting ships, missle boats, and now drone ships too. Stick to artillary guns or laser guns. They get instant damage, have the best range, the most damage per hit, and havent got nerfd. Thank goodness Im still a newbie & havent trained alot of useless skills.
Glassback on 15 November 2005
CTRL + R, Weee!! insta jumps nerf, Weee!! (but maybe, boo! have to wait and see) New Char Sheet is good, yet to test jump clones. New stacking bones and HP increase is good. Yet to try drones but funny error message if your drone bay is "too full". New Camera stuff is fun. New Rats are gona be good too I think. The bug hunters are gona be busy though as there are a few but I like to talk about th good stuff.
CTRL + R, Weee!! insta jumps nerf, Weee!! (but maybe, boo! have to wait and see) New Char Sheet is good, yet to test jump clones. New stacking bones and HP increase is good. Yet to try drones but funny error message if your drone bay is "too full". New Camera stuff is fun. New Rats are gona be good too I think. The bug hunters are gona be busy though as there are a few but I like to talk about th good stuff.
Illion on 15 November 2005
Remember that sheilds also regenerate on their own, which armour doesn't do....
Remember that sheilds also regenerate on their own, which armour doesn't do....
Time Killer on 15 November 2005
Insta nerf? Eh? Now this I gotta see. If SiSi lets me on there these days...
Insta nerf? Eh? Now this I gotta see. If SiSi lets me on there these days...
Brad Stone on 15 November 2005
what they done to Instas????
what they done to Instas????
Capsicum on 15 November 2005
@Captain Nephi: Thats true, but don't forget that Shield boosters activate much more quickly then armour boosters and repair more shield in the same time span ...
@Captain Nephi: Thats true, but don't forget that Shield boosters activate much more quickly then armour boosters and repair more shield in the same time span ...
Tas Devil on 15 November 2005
@Captain Nephi... you are pretty new... total repair values means nothing... divide the total repair value by the cycle time to see the true value of any repper... or booster...you'll see that shield and armor are much more comparable like that ... Also... Shield boosters give their HP at the start of the cycle... while armor reppers give them at the end... sounds trivial but it makes a noticeable difference in short engagements... also note that a module exists to boost shield booster efficiency (shield boost amplifier) ... haven't seen one for armor just yet :)
@Captain Nephi... you are pretty new... total repair values means nothing... divide the total repair value by the cycle time to see the true value of any repper... or booster...you'll see that shield and armor are much more comparable like that ... Also... Shield boosters give their HP at the start of the cycle... while armor reppers give them at the end... sounds trivial but it makes a noticeable difference in short engagements... also note that a module exists to boost shield booster efficiency (shield boost amplifier) ... haven't seen one for armor just yet :)
Tas Devil on 15 November 2005
Where is the NEW stacking formula PLEASE !!!
Where is the NEW stacking formula PLEASE !!!
Serj Darek on 15 November 2005
@Captain Nephi: Trust me, the Artillery has been nerfed plentifull. As to armor repairer vs shield. Shield boosters give immidiate effect, shields recharge automtically, you can have shield boost amps, when your shield is gone you still got armor and hull. :)
@Captain Nephi: Trust me, the Artillery has been nerfed plentifull. As to armor repairer vs shield. Shield boosters give immidiate effect, shields recharge automtically, you can have shield boost amps, when your shield is gone you still got armor and hull. :)
Sfoxor on 15 November 2005
How about adding the ablity to change the ships computer's voice, perhaps the option of chooseing (or paying) for a differnt one. She sounds so depressed.
How about adding the ablity to change the ships computer's voice, perhaps the option of chooseing (or paying) for a differnt one. She sounds so depressed.
Tradys on 15 November 2005
change the fucking stabz so they are like gone from game :p
change the fucking stabz so they are like gone from game :p
Rutoo on 15 November 2005
so basicly the tempest setup with 5 gyro 2's will now be crap? becuase i trained soo long for less than 9 seconds ROF and 2600 Damage per hit damit!
so basicly the tempest setup with 5 gyro 2's will now be crap? becuase i trained soo long for less than 9 seconds ROF and 2600 Damage per hit damit!
Hygelac on 15 November 2005
Actually, it would be really nice is you could see the overall modification you're getting when fitting your ship. I.e. +9.23% ROF, +1.23% Tracking etc.
Actually, it would be really nice is you could see the overall modification you're getting when fitting your ship. I.e. +9.23% ROF, +1.23% Tracking etc.
El Principe on 15 November 2005
47th 4TL :'( sounds good! Now all you have to do is nerf focused fire.. and big fleet battles could take hours! even more with lag! Victory is Ours!
47th 4TL :'( sounds good! Now all you have to do is nerf focused fire.. and big fleet battles could take hours! even more with lag! Victory is Ours!
Tas Devil on 15 November 2005
@ Hygelac... I second your idea.. a summary of all bonuses displayed as an additional layer to the info on an item or ship would be very nice IMO... the info is there its just cosmetics to display it...
@ Hygelac... I second your idea.. a summary of all bonuses displayed as an additional layer to the info on an item or ship would be very nice IMO... the info is there its just cosmetics to display it...
Savatage CMA on 15 November 2005
When is CCP going to nerf Alts. They have nerfed everything else so why not stop people from having 3 characters to play. If you think about this it would balance the game and make people think more about there actions.
When is CCP going to nerf Alts. They have nerfed everything else so why not stop people from having 3 characters to play. If you think about this it would balance the game and make people think more about there actions.
Swethren on 15 November 2005
Captain Nephi: They not nerfing drones, at first I thought they were, but after thinking about it, I like the idea of 4 tanked up ogres with 1 webber drone. They will be alot harder and with all the proposed skills, I think it's going to take more than a smartbomb to kill em
Captain Nephi: They not nerfing drones, at first I thought they were, but after thinking about it, I like the idea of 4 tanked up ogres with 1 webber drone. They will be alot harder and with all the proposed skills, I think it's going to take more than a smartbomb to kill em
Hehulk on 15 November 2005
I like this new system. on TQ, my cyclone shoots 38KM optimal with 3 T2 tracking enchancers. The test server has me doing 40KM optimal with the exact same set-up. Cheers :)
I like this new system. on TQ, my cyclone shoots 38KM optimal with 3 T2 tracking enchancers. The test server has me doing 40KM optimal with the exact same set-up. Cheers :)
Mitchman on 15 November 2005
You really need to nerf warp core stabs now. It's beyond silly now.
You really need to nerf warp core stabs now. It's beyond silly now.
Cpt Bjork on 15 November 2005
Would anyone mind explaining why you like or don't like something that was changed? 52 posts and I barely have a clue of what the changes actually are. 1. What was changed about instas? 2. What is different about the Char sheet? 3. Why do WCS need to be "nerfed"? 4. What does CTRL+R do? 5. What new camera stuff was added? Sorry if I sound like I singled anyone out. My questions come from the posts that were actually slightly informative. Almost all of the others were either questions like mine, One actual example (Hehulk), and a bunch of meaningless dribble.
Would anyone mind explaining why you like or don't like something that was changed? 52 posts and I barely have a clue of what the changes actually are. 1. What was changed about instas? 2. What is different about the Char sheet? 3. Why do WCS need to be "nerfed"? 4. What does CTRL+R do? 5. What new camera stuff was added? Sorry if I sound like I singled anyone out. My questions come from the posts that were actually slightly informative. Almost all of the others were either questions like mine, One actual example (Hehulk), and a bunch of meaningless dribble.
Cherry Wiggleson on 15 November 2005
ah... cpt. Bjork, get on the test server and see for yourself... this is feedback for the devs, not you.
ah... cpt. Bjork, get on the test server and see for yourself... this is feedback for the devs, not you.
Annatar on 15 November 2005
We could need a stack of the New Skill Books inside the Fight Club Station. 1) Overview dosend work if ya deselcting any stuff in the Control Panel 2) Char sheet looks mutch organised now, (just missing my Char Face inside all, but the first tab. Any chance to get the Face as Background for the other tabs?) 3) The Log colors looks a little messed between the Log itself and the Display on the Screen. (screen colours are Yellow or Orange instead White for "civil" actions like warp to & docking) 4) Insta Nerf is atm really Bad, we at least we need some kinda Skill to influence the diffrents between 30 and 2 Km from the "Warp Exit" (really disapointing if ya need to get 30km in the pod on the way back from FFA to Fight Club Station on SISI) 5) Drones look good, they are a lot thoughter now. 6) Whats with the "in testing" patchnotes? They are still talking about "Loot" Drones, but i thought it should be a Tracktor beam instead? So far i saw mutch more sweets and baads in the Upcomming Patch. Good Work.!
We could need a stack of the New Skill Books inside the Fight Club Station. 1) Overview dosend work if ya deselcting any stuff in the Control Panel 2) Char sheet looks mutch organised now, (just missing my Char Face inside all, but the first tab. Any chance to get the Face as Background for the other tabs?) 3) The Log colors looks a little messed between the Log itself and the Display on the Screen. (screen colours are Yellow or Orange instead White for "civil" actions like warp to & docking) 4) Insta Nerf is atm really Bad, we at least we need some kinda Skill to influence the diffrents between 30 and 2 Km from the "Warp Exit" (really disapointing if ya need to get 30km in the pod on the way back from FFA to Fight Club Station on SISI) 5) Drones look good, they are a lot thoughter now. 6) Whats with the "in testing" patchnotes? They are still talking about "Loot" Drones, but i thought it should be a Tracktor beam instead? So far i saw mutch more sweets and baads in the Upcomming Patch. Good Work.!
Annatar on 15 November 2005
*New skill books = Intermorph Psycologie (spelling? Mean the skill for Clone Jumps. Btw: Nice missile change looks the raven gets a little more usefull after the Huge Nerf applied with Cold War Patch. Any Additional Info on how exactly Clone Jumps intendet to work? Maybe another Blog?
*New skill books = Intermorph Psycologie (spelling? Mean the skill for Clone Jumps. Btw: Nice missile change looks the raven gets a little more usefull after the Huge Nerf applied with Cold War Patch. Any Additional Info on how exactly Clone Jumps intendet to work? Maybe another Blog?
Maya Rkell on 15 November 2005
Leno, you KNOW that's not true. Tracking enhancers
Leno, you KNOW that's not true. Tracking enhancers
Jet Collins on 15 November 2005
Ok sorry I won;t be getting on Test Server so I have a question for those that are. What about Link Tracking enhancers. If a ship as 4 tracking enhancers and is getting boosted by anouther ship to increase tracking is it nerfed? Not sure why anyone would do this but I just want to know because the mods are out there so we can try things like this. Thanks
Ok sorry I won;t be getting on Test Server so I have a question for those that are. What about Link Tracking enhancers. If a ship as 4 tracking enhancers and is getting boosted by anouther ship to increase tracking is it nerfed? Not sure why anyone would do this but I just want to know because the mods are out there so we can try things like this. Thanks
Glassback on 15 November 2005
To Cpt Bjork. 1. "Warp to" has changed, it lands a random distance each time. ie warp to 0 is there, but may land at 0 or 15. 2. New things like Clone Jumping (none knows how it works exactly yet) and it looks different. 3. No idea. 4. Re-loads all your guns. 5. Does stuff. Get on the server and see.
To Cpt Bjork. 1. "Warp to" has changed, it lands a random distance each time. ie warp to 0 is there, but may land at 0 or 15. 2. New things like Clone Jumping (none knows how it works exactly yet) and it looks different. 3. No idea. 4. Re-loads all your guns. 5. Does stuff. Get on the server and see.
cooler2 on 16 November 2005
u sould just be able to warp to 0km would reduce lag, and would not effect ganks, since they happen on the other side of the gate any way
u sould just be able to warp to 0km would reduce lag, and would not effect ganks, since they happen on the other side of the gate any way
brain NET on 16 November 2005
Good work CCP :)
Good work CCP :)
Batar Fireheart on 16 November 2005
i agree with cooler2 most ganks happen after you jump in. the deviation of warp-in needs to be reduced to maybe to a lesser variance. or at least add a skill to make warping in at 0 more accurate.
i agree with cooler2 most ganks happen after you jump in. the deviation of warp-in needs to be reduced to maybe to a lesser variance. or at least add a skill to make warping in at 0 more accurate.
Ssstupido on 16 November 2005
well, maybe i am mistaken, i am quite new, but arent there some things called bubbles? dont they take you out of warp? if this is so, i repeat, i havent seen one of those yet, but if this is so, why cant be make warp drives to 0? if someone wants to gank or pirate, they can set a bubble, cant they?
well, maybe i am mistaken, i am quite new, but arent there some things called bubbles? dont they take you out of warp? if this is so, i repeat, i havent seen one of those yet, but if this is so, why cant be make warp drives to 0? if someone wants to gank or pirate, they can set a bubble, cant they?
Nokia Connecting on 16 November 2005
Ssstupido: Yes they can. I agree. I think 2-3 km would be a nice distance. No more nerfing please, come on, don't SUGGEST nerfs, that's just stupid, suggest things that ADD TO THE GAME ffs, come on!!!
Ssstupido: Yes they can. I agree. I think 2-3 km would be a nice distance. No more nerfing please, come on, don't SUGGEST nerfs, that's just stupid, suggest things that ADD TO THE GAME ffs, come on!!!
Ademaro Imre on 16 November 2005
So in other words, if you are in a hauler and were able to escape chasing chips by using bookmarks - you are as good as dead now after one two jumps?
So in other words, if you are in a hauler and were able to escape chasing chips by using bookmarks - you are as good as dead now after one two jumps?
Ademaro Imre on 16 November 2005
I'll refine that, all one two ships need now to gank a hauler is a scout to see that the hauler is warping. When the hauler is warping, gange jumps gate - has a smoke and waits for hauler to arrive 0-15 km from gate?
I'll refine that, all one two ships need now to gank a hauler is a scout to see that the hauler is warping. When the hauler is warping, gange jumps gate - has a smoke and waits for hauler to arrive 0-15 km from gate?
Irwin Shaw on 17 November 2005
First i'd like to say that some of the changes on Sisi looks real good, the Brutix with extra PG is a joy to fly, and the recycle directly from hangar REALLY made my day. So overall, things look good so far. However, there is still the issue with drones. While I can to a certain extent understand the need to try cutting down lag by reducing users to only 5 drones (still don't get it, but one has to be diplomatic), I simply don't get the 50% reduction of ALL drone bays. To me it would have made more sense ONLY looking at reducing drone bays LARGER than 125 m3, or if the ship in question had a bay between 125 and 250 m3, then reduce the bay to 125 m3, i.e. 5 heavy drones. The way it has been done, now means that barges, for instance, have had their defences SERIOUSLY reduced, as a medium barge went from 5 medium drones to now only 5 light drones. With the present skill tree on Sisi, the drones do the same amount of damage as before, and there's just no way of increasing that. While the drones have been tanked up a bit, it still takes a LOT longer to send something to the cloning center with drones now. And while I'm at it, i like the smaller, tougher spawns in low sec, but is it just me, or do they hardly do any damage at the moment?? Fought 3 cruisers yesterday, and they hardly even made any damage to my shields, despite a 5 minute battle. Closing statement: keep up the good work!
First i'd like to say that some of the changes on Sisi looks real good, the Brutix with extra PG is a joy to fly, and the recycle directly from hangar REALLY made my day. So overall, things look good so far. However, there is still the issue with drones. While I can to a certain extent understand the need to try cutting down lag by reducing users to only 5 drones (still don't get it, but one has to be diplomatic), I simply don't get the 50% reduction of ALL drone bays. To me it would have made more sense ONLY looking at reducing drone bays LARGER than 125 m3, or if the ship in question had a bay between 125 and 250 m3, then reduce the bay to 125 m3, i.e. 5 heavy drones. The way it has been done, now means that barges, for instance, have had their defences SERIOUSLY reduced, as a medium barge went from 5 medium drones to now only 5 light drones. With the present skill tree on Sisi, the drones do the same amount of damage as before, and there's just no way of increasing that. While the drones have been tanked up a bit, it still takes a LOT longer to send something to the cloning center with drones now. And while I'm at it, i like the smaller, tougher spawns in low sec, but is it just me, or do they hardly do any damage at the moment?? Fought 3 cruisers yesterday, and they hardly even made any damage to my shields, despite a 5 minute battle. Closing statement: keep up the good work!
TuRtLe HeAd on 18 November 2005
Love everything so far. keep up the good work. (Biting my lip about drones, but Im oveur it now)
Love everything so far. keep up the good work. (Biting my lip about drones, but Im oveur it now)
Nohra Kittstalkur on 19 November 2005
Ctrl + R = <3<3 I got tired of rightclicking and selecting Reload on six guns back with my Brutix, and now I have 7 on my Thron.
Ctrl + R = <3<3 I got tired of rightclicking and selecting Reload on six guns back with my Brutix, and now I have 7 on my Thron.
Princess Bultana on 19 November 2005
Havent had chance to hop on test server lately. If this ctrl + R thing reloads all guns and launchers, could there also be an option to change all crystal types on all guns to the 1 type with just the 1 click? (takes ages to switch all 8 guns on an apoc to a different crystal type for example) being able to right click on the 1 gun and select a crystal type for all 8 with 1 click would be great, same could be done for all gun ammo changes and missile launchers too?
Havent had chance to hop on test server lately. If this ctrl + R thing reloads all guns and launchers, could there also be an option to change all crystal types on all guns to the 1 type with just the 1 click? (takes ages to switch all 8 guns on an apoc to a different crystal type for example) being able to right click on the 1 gun and select a crystal type for all 8 with 1 click would be great, same could be done for all gun ammo changes and missile launchers too?
King Dave on 19 November 2005
i want the original font back from genesis, cant wait to test out tanking capabilites now with new stacking penalties
i want the original font back from genesis, cant wait to test out tanking capabilites now with new stacking penalties
King Dave on 19 November 2005
also leave the char sheet alone, its nice to leave some things the same
also leave the char sheet alone, its nice to leave some things the same
BUDKING on 20 November 2005
oh wow a stacking change BFS you still dont get full % of even one mod and you think you did something lol only thing i have seen you guys do it slap 1 year and new players in the face with a crap load of BS skills to train all from the Cry baby vet player we dont own eve no more noobs and 12 mounth old players are taken over waaa waaa start nerfing the skill times on stuff that dont matter like the basic things people need in eve mining is so lame as is and the modo skills for a good miner is wacked i mean come on mining is like the lowest job to have id like to see trash men that have to have collage or ditch diggers
oh wow a stacking change BFS you still dont get full % of even one mod and you think you did something lol only thing i have seen you guys do it slap 1 year and new players in the face with a crap load of BS skills to train all from the Cry baby vet player we dont own eve no more noobs and 12 mounth old players are taken over waaa waaa start nerfing the skill times on stuff that dont matter like the basic things people need in eve mining is so lame as is and the modo skills for a good miner is wacked i mean come on mining is like the lowest job to have id like to see trash men that have to have collage or ditch diggers
Andouus La on 20 November 2005
About the replyes about the fonts on sisi server, since there is no threads on it. Dont change the old fonts the new one are really agressing my eyes. Have a perfect vision, but heck there just plain anoying after a while. I cant explain what it is exactly, but it's really too anoying. The old fonts you did'nt see them really and they are exactly what there supposed to be, but on sisi there plain visible so I guess they just demand to much visual input on the eye. You grow tired of them really fast.
About the replyes about the fonts on sisi server, since there is no threads on it. Dont change the old fonts the new one are really agressing my eyes. Have a perfect vision, but heck there just plain anoying after a while. I cant explain what it is exactly, but it's really too anoying. The old fonts you did'nt see them really and they are exactly what there supposed to be, but on sisi there plain visible so I guess they just demand to much visual input on the eye. You grow tired of them really fast.
Takitoo on 23 November 2005
I like that idea. The Rifter type ships and any frig in general will be even better. Good stuff !
I like that idea. The Rifter type ships and any frig in general will be even better. Good stuff !
res0nance on 24 November 2005
NOOOOOOOOOO MY GANKA
NOOOOOOOOOO MY GANKA
res0nance on 24 November 2005
budking "oh wow a stacking change BFS you still dont get full % of even one mod and you think you did something lol only thing i have seen you guys do it slap 1 year and new players in the face with a crap load of BS skills to train all from the Cry baby vet player we dont own eve no more noobs and 12 mounth old players are taken over waaa waaa start nerfing the skill times on stuff that dont matter like the basic things people need in eve mining is so lame as is and the modo skills for a good miner is wacked i mean come on mining is like the lowest job to have id like to see trash men that have to have collage or ditch diggers" worlds biggest sentence award?
budking "oh wow a stacking change BFS you still dont get full % of even one mod and you think you did something lol only thing i have seen you guys do it slap 1 year and new players in the face with a crap load of BS skills to train all from the Cry baby vet player we dont own eve no more noobs and 12 mounth old players are taken over waaa waaa start nerfing the skill times on stuff that dont matter like the basic things people need in eve mining is so lame as is and the modo skills for a good miner is wacked i mean come on mining is like the lowest job to have id like to see trash men that have to have collage or ditch diggers" worlds biggest sentence award?
Commander ToeL on 25 November 2005
I 2nd the concept of a navagational skill that would reduce the warp in distance from 0-15 down to 0-3 km when fully trained. The rest I can get used to.
I 2nd the concept of a navagational skill that would reduce the warp in distance from 0-15 down to 0-3 km when fully trained. The rest I can get used to.
cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 25 November 2005
BOOOOOOO To stacking, BOOOOO its nerfing every race but caldari
BOOOOOOO To stacking, BOOOOO its nerfing every race but caldari
cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 25 November 2005
its almost impossible to break a Ravens Tank as is and THis destroys 1400 artillery hurting a raven. UNless you can stack a full set of damage mods and run a shield tank you can bust a ravens tank and i have 1400 t2's and Specilization 4. Unless i want to use a retarded DOmi setup with 6 nos and kill him with Drones in which case your nerfing the drones as well
its almost impossible to break a Ravens Tank as is and THis destroys 1400 artillery hurting a raven. UNless you can stack a full set of damage mods and run a shield tank you can bust a ravens tank and i have 1400 t2's and Specilization 4. Unless i want to use a retarded DOmi setup with 6 nos and kill him with Drones in which case your nerfing the drones as well
cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 25 November 2005
i like how you guys used common sense and finally added something that shows us if we have clones though/ but thats something that should of been implemented ages ago. So im not sure if i should compliment on something that anyone in this game could of told you to do since its begining
i like how you guys used common sense and finally added something that shows us if we have clones though/ but thats something that should of been implemented ages ago. So im not sure if i should compliment on something that anyone in this game could of told you to do since its begining
superchickenman on 27 November 2005
from cranberry muffin:BOOOOO its nerfing every race but caldari caldari not been nerfed enough?
from cranberry muffin:BOOOOO its nerfing every race but caldari caldari not been nerfed enough?
cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 29 November 2005
super it has not, i have 6.2mill in missiles atm and caldari bs 5 and i throw on 4 ballistic control 2's with 2 power diags with my raven and i shoot 100 times harder, 100 times farther, 100 times faster then before ive never been at a better peek with my raven. you just need to train the skills
super it has not, i have 6.2mill in missiles atm and caldari bs 5 and i throw on 4 ballistic control 2's with 2 power diags with my raven and i shoot 100 times harder, 100 times farther, 100 times faster then before ive never been at a better peek with my raven. you just need to train the skills
cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 29 November 2005
now unless ccp wants to make 1400 artillery a worthless snipe gun used to kill cruisers, frigs, and every bs but a raven or scorp then do this. i like my 1400 art and so many people do dont make it a worthless gun to where everyone in eve has to fit 3 large repair and 1 gun and full nos to kill a caldari bs its nonsense.
now unless ccp wants to make 1400 artillery a worthless snipe gun used to kill cruisers, frigs, and every bs but a raven or scorp then do this. i like my 1400 art and so many people do dont make it a worthless gun to where everyone in eve has to fit 3 large repair and 1 gun and full nos to kill a caldari bs its nonsense.
UnitT on 29 November 2005
Why would they nerf instas? Seemed like they were one of the nicest features of the game, like - you can have a ranged warp _or_ you can put in time and effort to get yourself closer the next time round. One option was maybe to prevent instas being handed out to others? I.e. forcing you to do the work personally. OTOH the concept of a bit of randomness on warp termination seems valid. I'm torn.
Why would they nerf instas? Seemed like they were one of the nicest features of the game, like - you can have a ranged warp _or_ you can put in time and effort to get yourself closer the next time round. One option was maybe to prevent instas being handed out to others? I.e. forcing you to do the work personally. OTOH the concept of a bit of randomness on warp termination seems valid. I'm torn.
KIAEddZ on 29 November 2005
PLease please please adress the WCS situation. Ganka ships will now have room to use 2 -3 WCS without any real deprivation of ability. Its just plain Crazy. Please address this CCP.
PLease please please adress the WCS situation. Ganka ships will now have room to use 2 -3 WCS without any real deprivation of ability. Its just plain Crazy. Please address this CCP.
Little Fistter on 29 November 2005
You guys are making me consider trying any other online game! Quit tinkering with the stuff that works fine,lets fix the real bugs: sloppy code, redundant data loading, client/server overcommunications, client CTD and the damn server side code bloat. Look, a college programming freshman can see you are not providing enough array space for items, and the damn client ought to cache a lot of the stuff that does not change every minute. Plus, why load every object in the solar system every time you enter the system? have two classes: local and system-wide. POS, lost drones, NPC's at a belt of POI do not have to be loaded for a ship just passing through. You guys need to look at architecture , not content. And you really are going to lose us if you keep changing the rules in the middle of the game... that's NOT FAIR!
You guys are making me consider trying any other online game! Quit tinkering with the stuff that works fine,lets fix the real bugs: sloppy code, redundant data loading, client/server overcommunications, client CTD and the damn server side code bloat. Look, a college programming freshman can see you are not providing enough array space for items, and the damn client ought to cache a lot of the stuff that does not change every minute. Plus, why load every object in the solar system every time you enter the system? have two classes: local and system-wide. POS, lost drones, NPC's at a belt of POI do not have to be loaded for a ship just passing through. You guys need to look at architecture , not content. And you really are going to lose us if you keep changing the rules in the middle of the game... that's NOT FAIR!
Hakzuzu on 29 November 2005
what ccp really needs to address is travel time in eve...I have never played a game that took so long to get from point A to point B. Yes, I know that there are advantages and disadvantages to that. But CCP really needs to figure out a way to speed up travelling. Maybe this insta "nerf" will actually help the majority of people. H
what ccp really needs to address is travel time in eve...I have never played a game that took so long to get from point A to point B. Yes, I know that there are advantages and disadvantages to that. But CCP really needs to figure out a way to speed up travelling. Maybe this insta "nerf" will actually help the majority of people. H
Colwyn Amicus on 30 November 2005
I have to agree TOTALLY with Little Fistter. Haven't you heard the expression "If it isn't broke, don't fix it."? Apparently not. Getting rid of instas makes me want to kick you all in the balls... There are Mobile Warp Disruptors in the game for a reason... or sis you forget you put them there? They work wonderful if you dont want anyone passing through. I enjoy instas becasue they allow me the Option of retreating from a situation that does not favor me... other than logging out, thats not what you guys are going for right? That is why you added the 15min aggro timer after combat. Instas work for everyone the same already, I know when someone uses them to get away from me, that I can turn around and do the same thing. But if my opponent is smart/fast enough to put a bubble up, my options are SERIOUSLY limited. They work fine how they are, please DO NOT change them. -Col
I have to agree TOTALLY with Little Fistter. Haven't you heard the expression "If it isn't broke, don't fix it."? Apparently not. Getting rid of instas makes me want to kick you all in the balls... There are Mobile Warp Disruptors in the game for a reason... or sis you forget you put them there? They work wonderful if you dont want anyone passing through. I enjoy instas becasue they allow me the Option of retreating from a situation that does not favor me... other than logging out, thats not what you guys are going for right? That is why you added the 15min aggro timer after combat. Instas work for everyone the same already, I know when someone uses them to get away from me, that I can turn around and do the same thing. But if my opponent is smart/fast enough to put a bubble up, my options are SERIOUSLY limited. They work fine how they are, please DO NOT change them. -Col
Cirale on 01 December 2005
I posted this comment on another blog earlier, but it bears repeating..... something on BMs that I have not seen mentioned, that I think would be an easy and effective fix. Remove the ability to BM within, say, 100km of any superstructure, IE station or stargate. this keeps the integrity and utility of marking space for mining, safety, loot, or whatever, while cutting down on the majority of BM lag. Next, allow players to warp to 5km. after warp bubble collapse, the resulting inertia should easily put the ship in jump range, effectively allowing an "insta". perhaps remove the aggression timer on 0.0 gates to increase PvP action in no-sec space to compensate. Theres no cops there, what do the gates care if you shoot someone? I think a good 90% if not more of my BMs are gate to gate/station. with this idea, the 10% that have value for everything but travel remain, and the reasons for having the other 90% is gone.
I posted this comment on another blog earlier, but it bears repeating..... something on BMs that I have not seen mentioned, that I think would be an easy and effective fix. Remove the ability to BM within, say, 100km of any superstructure, IE station or stargate. this keeps the integrity and utility of marking space for mining, safety, loot, or whatever, while cutting down on the majority of BM lag. Next, allow players to warp to 5km. after warp bubble collapse, the resulting inertia should easily put the ship in jump range, effectively allowing an "insta". perhaps remove the aggression timer on 0.0 gates to increase PvP action in no-sec space to compensate. Theres no cops there, what do the gates care if you shoot someone? I think a good 90% if not more of my BMs are gate to gate/station. with this idea, the 10% that have value for everything but travel remain, and the reasons for having the other 90% is gone.
Geoff C on 08 December 2005
Id like to know why you guys are thinking of fixing stuff thats not broken, when there are things in this game long well broken that never get fixed because you adding new things and not fixing things youve already released that are messed up.
Id like to know why you guys are thinking of fixing stuff thats not broken, when there are things in this game long well broken that never get fixed because you adding new things and not fixing things youve already released that are messed up.
DARKVALE on 11 December 2005
Just read patch notes very impressed looking forwards to it. POS in 0.7 4tW
Just read patch notes very impressed looking forwards to it. POS in 0.7 4tW
Kamikaze on 13 December 2005
I like your idea very much cirale
I like your idea very much cirale
Mr Inevitability on 14 December 2005
Have you guys (=CCP) any idea how much time people spent setting up their network of instas? To have that all blown out the window would SUCK MAJORLY. No thanks.
Have you guys (=CCP) any idea how much time people spent setting up their network of instas? To have that all blown out the window would SUCK MAJORLY. No thanks.
Verizana on 14 December 2005
good bye gankageddon hello longer fleet battles
good bye gankageddon hello longer fleet battles
Digiblast on 14 December 2005
So Stacking 6-8 guns on your ship is bad now???? And stacking 5-8 Armor/shield hardners get - or something ;-D
So Stacking 6-8 guns on your ship is bad now???? And stacking 5-8 Armor/shield hardners get - or something ;-D
sinickal on 15 December 2005
lamez0rs, can't pwn with 7 heatsinks on my apoc anymores :(
lamez0rs, can't pwn with 7 heatsinks on my apoc anymores :(
Mistica on 15 December 2005
Let RmR begin :-) Can't wait go CCP
Let RmR begin :-) Can't wait go CCP
Corven Doomsong on 16 December 2005
sensors dampners are now useless thanks alot.....
sensors dampners are now useless thanks alot.....
lotek cranium on 23 December 2005
ehh no complaints bout the freckin small scrollbars, if u dont click em right, the layout reloads time after time
ehh no complaints bout the freckin small scrollbars, if u dont click em right, the layout reloads time after time
Ghost003 on 31 December 2005
Umm... great job, but while you did that you messed up sensor dampners and now when you usea damp on an enemy ship fitted with sensor booster they get penalised for effecting the same attributes....
Further commenting has been disabled. If you want to discuss this post then head on to the forums Umm... great job, but while you did that you messed up sensor dampners and now when you usea damp on an enemy ship fitted with sensor booster they get penalised for effecting the same attributes....